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Yeah, those criminal migrants. How dare they risk their lives in small boats. It's almost like they had a really good reason to do it. Where is your humanity, your compassion?
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Banksy ship saving migrants at sea detained in Italy for 'breaking rules'
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Not at all. Laws has to be compatible with universal laws, international treaties/laws such as UN Geneva Convention and for Italy also the EU laws. Along many other conditions such as arbitrariness.
> Not at all. Laws has to be compatible with universal laws, international treaties/laws such as UN Geneva Convention and for Italy also the EU laws. Along many other conditions such as arbitrariness. No they don't. What authority enforces that? If not other country or international body has the willingness and capability to go to war with Italy in order to enforce its opinions, and if no country is willing to shun I…
They do. I do not have to convince you that 2+2=4. If you have read recent European Human Rights Court decisions, you can clearly see what kind of domestic laws is in violation of law. (Yes, I mean some domestic laws are in violation of laws)
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> Not at all. Laws has to be compatible with universal laws, international treaties/laws such as UN Geneva Convention and for Italy also the EU laws. Along many other conditions such as arbitrariness. No they don't. What authority enforces that? If not other country or international body has the willingness and capability to go to war with Italy in order to enforce its opinions, and if no country is willing to shun I…
They do. I do not have to convince you that 2+2=4. If you have read recent European Human Rights Court decisions, you can clearly see what kind of domestic laws is in violation of law. (Yes, I mean some domestic laws are in violation of laws)
> They do. I do not have to convince you that 2+2=4.
Yeah, because you're trying to convince me that 2+2=5.
> If you have read recent European Human Rights Court decisions, you can clearly see what kind of domestic laws is in violation of law. (Yes, I mean some domestic laws are in violation of laws)
And what's that court going to do to make Italy comply?
For instance: I can claim until I'm blue in the face that everyone has to comply with some "universal law" that I declare, and I can issue statements to that effect, but in reality that's totally meaningless because I lack the power to make others follow me. There are a lot of international bodies that makes similar claims, and similarly lack the power. Maybe those bodies persuaded you, but that doesn't matter to the unpersuaded.
International relations is literally anarchy. Sometimes there's cooperation that looks like law, and rhetoric that that claims the moral force of law, but the reality is anarchy -- which is why Putin was able to invade Ukraine and North Korea's government has remained in place for 70 years, doing things liberals find to be horrific and "illegal" the whole time.
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Yeah, those criminal migrants. How dare they risk their lives in small boats. It's almost like they had a really good reason to do it. Where is your humanity, your compassion?
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There is no evidence that migrants commit more crime than native people, violent or not.
You say you are worried that your grandchildren will have no place to live among their "own kind". Being human not enough?
Frankly you sound like a racist.
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There is no evidence that migrants commit more crime than native people, violent or not. You say you are worried that your grandchildren will have no place to live among their "own kind". Being human not enough? Frankly you sound like a racist.
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There is no evidence that migrants commit more crime than native people, violent or not. You say you are worried that your grandchildren will have no place to live among their "own kind". Being human not enough? Frankly you sound like a racist.
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I'm sad you feel that way, but I guess I won't change your mind with any arguments I might make.
For myself, I see myself primarily as a human, not a white human, or a male human, or an English human, although they all contribute to my identity. I just don't see those things as of primary importance, and are merely accidents.
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I'm sad you feel that way, but I guess I won't change your mind with any arguments I might make. For myself, I see myself primarily as a human, not a white human, or a male human, or an English human, although they all contribute to my identity. I just don't see those things as of primary importance, and are merely accidents.
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