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Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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I think that includes laptops, where macOS is very popular? For gaming, at least, Steam's stats show 96% Windows.

Here's the relevant Steam Hardware & Software Survey link: https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey For convenience: Windows 96.37% OSX 2.37% Linux 1.27% Gaming wise, that's pretty dire. Proton is pretty nice on Linux, but still doesn't and probably never will support all of the titles that people might want to play. In addition, I doubt many companies out there want to test their game releases on multiple OSes and tr…

I am hoping Steam Deck will change the Linux calculus. I play a lot of games on Linux now because of my deck! Haven’t turned on the Windows machine in a year or so.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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For what it's worth, a ton of people inside of MSFT are opposed to these changes. The few responsible for them are answering to overwhelming pressure from the Finance side. Every time something like this ships out, guaranteed just about every CVP fields angry/annoyed/exasperated complaints about it.

Unfortunately, it's perfectly logical. On the one hand you have $x/year and the other you have $0/year. The argument that all this marketing stuff in the OS is having a negative financial effect is extremely hard to prove. This is where having a strong minded CEO comes into play. You literally have to have someone who can say "although this makes us less money, this is correct approach". In an organization whose enti…

Hello late stage capitalism.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Every couple of weeks Windows shows a FULL SCREEN advertisement during boot/login which requires several clicks to get rid of. They advertise everything starting from Microsoft Accounts, OneDrive, MS Edge ( https://www.windowslatest.com/2020/11/15/windows-10-is-now-n... ) , Windows 11 ( https://mspoweruser.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/167013949... ) , and a long etc. This is not a small advert in a small corner of…

This only happens when Windows has a major updaye, usually overnight if you leave your PC on. On the next startup you're always greeted with a full screen overview of new features, setup, etc.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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On the fresh install of Windows I do see some ads and ad-adjacent things. But once I disable all of them, that's it. No more. I haven't seen anything at all like this since install day a couple years back. My guess is that people aren't going through and disabling everything. Also, people aren't using piholes which are probably blocking everything that can't be disabled.

>On the fresh install of Windows I do see some ads and ad-adjacent things. I'm curious, did you pay for the installer or did it come bundled with a device?

I can report the same experience. It was a paid for copy of Windows 10 Pro that I upgraded for to Windows 11

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Steam, EGS and GOG are stores. Ads are expected in stores. The OS that runs my computer is not. I would expect ads on Windows when I open the built-in app store, but not on the Start Menu.

Additionally I see ads once, when I start Steam and before clicking over to the library from the storefront. To compare, I might see ads every time I bring up the start menu.

Plus you can set Steam to open directly to your library (Settings -> Interface) and disable the popup window of new releases (same page).

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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If you’re a gamer, how do you interact with the computer? You launch Steam, see a bunch of ads, launch Epic Game Store or GOG Galaxy and see a bunch of ads, so why wouldn’t you see ads in the start menu? Hell, you have to log in to an account for the “GeForce Experience”. Just to keep your graphics card drivers automatically updated. As soon as you’re in a game, the game is full-screen. You’re not switching apps, you…

> you have to log in to an account for the “GeForce Experience”. Just to keep your graphics card drivers automatically updated. TechPowerUp's NVCleanstall makes it easy to automatically update Nvidia drivers without any login, and also to remove any Nvidia application bloat you don't want. (I exclude GFE and only install the control panel, for example.)

I was using something similar to that, then recently found I can update with chocolatey

https://community.chocolatey.org/packages/nvidia-display-dri...

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Every couple of weeks Windows shows a FULL SCREEN advertisement during boot/login which requires several clicks to get rid of. They advertise everything starting from Microsoft Accounts, OneDrive, MS Edge ( https://www.windowslatest.com/2020/11/15/windows-10-is-now-n... ) , Windows 11 ( https://mspoweruser.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/167013949... ) , and a long etc. This is not a small advert in a small corner of…

This only happens when Windows has a major updaye, usually overnight if you leave your PC on. On the next startup you're always greeted with a full screen overview of new features, setup, etc.

another poster told be about windows update blocker.

Now i don't have to be afraid to go to sleep at night...

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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This also happens to a machine that's left on overnight. Something Happens and it reboots - I lose my RDP connection - to this awful dialog.

What grinds my gears is the scheduled waking from sleep to check for updates. And then it often doesn't go back to sleep afterwards for some reason. Oh! And if you go into the task scheduler to hunt down the half dozen different places this function is called from, they just get turned back on with the next update.

windows update blocker did the trick for me. Updater is finally disabled for good
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