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Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Every couple of weeks Windows shows a FULL SCREEN advertisement during boot/login which requires several clicks to get rid of. They advertise everything starting from Microsoft Accounts, OneDrive, MS Edge ( https://www.windowslatest.com/2020/11/15/windows-10-is-now-n... ) , Windows 11 ( https://mspoweruser.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/167013949... ) , and a long etc. This is not a small advert in a small corner of…

Never seen this. May I recommend win aero tweaker?

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Windows has been imminently dying since the early 00s, and still seems to be in mortal peril every day.

It has definitely NOT been dying since early 00s. The first definable moment where I think Windows started being at risk was release of iPhone and then smartphones that followed it (so say 2008). But even then it wasn't yet clear that smartphones will take over the world so thoroughly and drive people from using laptops. Until that moment I would definitely project that the future will see more and more people having…

Yeah it is not and never will be Linux or whatever HN poster child that will kill MS. It is smartphones.

Which MS was aware of but we all know what happened with Windows Phone.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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it's down into the 75% range now and is continuing to drop https://www.statista.com/statistics/218089/global-market-sha... (reminds me of the IE market share graph actually)

I think that includes laptops, where macOS is very popular? For gaming, at least, Steam's stats show 96% Windows.

Here's the relevant Steam Hardware & Software Survey link: https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

For convenience:

  Windows 96.37%
  OSX 2.37%
  Linux 1.27%
Gaming wise, that's pretty dire. Proton is pretty nice on Linux, but still doesn't and probably never will support all of the titles that people might want to play. In addition, I doubt many companies out there want to test their game releases on multiple OSes and try to fix all of the bugs if they can even port the games, all for less than 4% increased profits.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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If you’re a gamer, how do you interact with the computer? You launch Steam, see a bunch of ads, launch Epic Game Store or GOG Galaxy and see a bunch of ads, so why wouldn’t you see ads in the start menu? Hell, you have to log in to an account for the “GeForce Experience”. Just to keep your graphics card drivers automatically updated. As soon as you’re in a game, the game is full-screen. You’re not switching apps, you…

Steam, EGS and GOG are stores. Ads are expected in stores. The OS that runs my computer is not. I would expect ads on Windows when I open the built-in app store, but not on the Start Menu.

Additionally I see ads once, when I start Steam and before clicking over to the library from the storefront.

To compare, I might see ads every time I bring up the start menu.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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It is death of an operating system. Before our eyes. Microsoft is trying desperately to squeeze a bit more cash out of it but the failing culture within Microsoft is unable to recognise they are driving users off their own product. I already got fed up enough that I basically banned Windows at home and I am impatiently waiting to kill one last Windows box. It is our gaming machine that is generally available to entir…

For what it's worth, a ton of people inside of MSFT are opposed to these changes. The few responsible for them are answering to overwhelming pressure from the Finance side. Every time something like this ships out, guaranteed just about every CVP fields angry/annoyed/exasperated complaints about it.

Longtime Windows users here—migrating away because the OS has become a marketing tool instead of the productivity behemoth that it once was. Yes, there are still TONS OF THINGS THAT WINDOWS DOES BETTER THAN EVERY OTHER OS, but what Windows is becoming is causing me to overlook this.

The next step for me here will be migrating clients off of Windows on their machines too.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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I'll just remind everybody that on Linux we have VFIO, where you can passthrough your videocard to Windows virtual-machine, and have almost native gaming. As a big plus, your Win VM's disk C:\ is stored in a file, which you can backup and restore any time you want and not care about viruses/trojans/malware.

I may look into that, especially now that I've upgraded to a platform where I have both dedicated and integrated graphics. My current worries are:

- I have a VR headset, how much work and how functional is it to use under a VM? I heard you'd have to passthrough the entire USB controller which is.. not great

- Anticheat still isnt happy about VMs right? That would cut a couple games I'm currently into

- How annoying is it to share files? Affinity Photo/Designer not running well in Wine/Proton is one of my blockers to move to Linux, and even if I virtualized I fear it might be incredibly tedious to use because of them being in a VM (unless modern KVM/Vbox/VMWare has flawless copy/paste sync etc)

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

#137

How outrageous! Let me close the Apple Music window for this App I can't uninstall, and that popup that says I can't save my notes unless I have iCloud, and look past the automatically included Apple News and Apple Financed widgets in the notification panel I accidentally opened to go open a browser that defaults to showing me the shortcuts for several third party companies whose services I do not use to get on the i…

I was thinking the same thing. Apple berates the user quite a bit to onboard to iCloud and other services; the screenshot of the new promotion looks about in line with that. If I was a Microsoft PM I'd just pitch the menu as "Apple has the same thing and users are complacent", and get sign off in no time. I think this is fine battle to pick, I have OneDrive uninstalled on my Windows machine, but I think it's a bit si…

macOS keeps a permanent 'important' notification in Settings if you don't setup iCloud. I see it every week when I use the iMac in the theater I help out at.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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How outrageous! Let me close the Apple Music window for this App I can't uninstall, and that popup that says I can't save my notes unless I have iCloud, and look past the automatically included Apple News and Apple Financed widgets in the notification panel I accidentally opened to go open a browser that defaults to showing me the shortcuts for several third party companies whose services I do not use to get on the i…

Yup. I don't understand why people choose to rag on Microsoft when literally everyone else who has something to sell you besides the OS itself, does this. Maybe it's because Windows is from the era when MS was not a services company, and people, by force of inertia, expect windows to continue behaving as if MS is not a services company.

Redhat have something else to sell besides the Os and don't for that.

Not a Redhat user BTW.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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This does not look at all legitimate

I’ve purchased a handful of keys over the years. It’s legit.

It's "legit" insofar as "it's gets you a string that you can enter into windows and will activate". I doubt it would satisfy any legal requirements, although to be fair a home user probably wouldn't be very concerned about that.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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They will likely just discontinue Windows 10 to force everybody onto 11 in good time; like they tried to do with Windows 7. I'm on Windows 10 at the moment and no way am I upgrading. From what I've seen and heard so far, 11 is an absolute festering nightmare.

Windows 10 support ends on October 2025, as of things stand now.

It's jan 2032 if you get IOT Enterprise LTSC.
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