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Gpt4all: A chatbot trained on ~800k GPT-3.5-Turbo Generations based on LLaMa

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Re: Gpt4all: A chatbot trained on ~800k GPT-3.5-Turbo Generations based on LLaMa

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Does this support context? Like can you hold conversations with it, or is it just instruct-trained rather than chat-trained?

Models don't support context. You feed prior prompt/response pairs back into the input.

Oh is that how it works under the hood?

Re: Gpt4all: A chatbot trained on ~800k GPT-3.5-Turbo Generations based on LLaMa

#22
post #15

Wow things are moving super fast, but it's scary that everything is being tainted by licensing. Super fun for research, but commercial endeavors are on shady grounds.

I wonder if when you train a model based on the weights of another model, do the owners of the original model have any sort of copyright claim? They trained it on data on which they had no copyright claim either, fwiw.

Why bother with the weights when you can just take the literal output of another model and consume as part of your training corpus?

What kind of copyright claims can be made against the content generated by a model wielding the desired weights?

Re: Gpt4all: A chatbot trained on ~800k GPT-3.5-Turbo Generations based on LLaMa

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hopefully someone will be brave enough to fight Meta on the LLaMA copyright issue. My concern is that the people who can afford a massive legal battle can also afford to train their own model.

Given recent guidance from the US Copyright Office, I doubt there are real copyright issues or enforceable restrictions on commercial use. I would say that someone trying to sell the original model would be the only case that could have a real challenge, and even then its not that clear cut to me. Everyone else using these fine tuned models, I don't think there is a case. Everyone's making non-copyrightable scaffoldi…

There’s a big difference between copyright for material produced by a model, and copyright on the software and weights for the model.

As far as I know, USPTO has said that works crested primarily by AI may not receive copyright protection, but I don’t think there’s any indication that the software to run AI is not copyrightable. Maybe?

Re: Gpt4all: A chatbot trained on ~800k GPT-3.5-Turbo Generations based on LLaMa

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Models don't support context. You feed prior prompt/response pairs back into the input.

How does one find out what the max input size is?

Search context window size.

For LLaMA it's 2048 tokens

Re: Gpt4all: A chatbot trained on ~800k GPT-3.5-Turbo Generations based on LLaMa

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post #22
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if when you train a model based on the weights of another model, do the owners of the original model have any sort of copyright claim? They trained it on data on which they had no copyright claim either, fwiw.

Why bother with the weights when you can just take the literal output of another model and consume as part of your training corpus? What kind of copyright claims can be made against the content generated by a model wielding the desired weights?

In fine-tuned models, for example, you may only train a real subset of the weights. Who is the copyright owner now and what is the justification?

There might be other ways of transfer-learning where you can greatly benefit from the pretrained weights, some of which may have not yet been discovered.

Re: Gpt4all: A chatbot trained on ~800k GPT-3.5-Turbo Generations based on LLaMa

#26
post #7

Wow things are moving super fast, but it's scary that everything is being tainted by licensing. Super fun for research, but commercial endeavors are on shady grounds.

Da Vinci had no licenses. Nor Euclid, Nor Einstein. In the long run, licenses are for losers.

OpenAI keeps text-davinci-003 proprietary.

Re: Gpt4all: A chatbot trained on ~800k GPT-3.5-Turbo Generations based on LLaMa

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Does anyone know of any good test suites we can use to benchmark these local models? It would be really interesting to compare all the ones capable of running on consumer hardware so that users can easily choose the best ones to use. Currently, I'm a bit unsure how this compares to the Alpaca model released a few weeks ago.

The simplest and quickest benchmark is to do a rap battle between GPT-4 and the local models. Copy paste the responses between them to enable the cross-model battle.

It is instantly clear how strong the model is relative to GPT-4.

Re: Gpt4all: A chatbot trained on ~800k GPT-3.5-Turbo Generations based on LLaMa

#29

Does anyone know of any good test suites we can use to benchmark these local models? It would be really interesting to compare all the ones capable of running on consumer hardware so that users can easily choose the best ones to use. Currently, I'm a bit unsure how this compares to the Alpaca model released a few weeks ago.

Test suites are not reflection complete! https://sdrinf.com/reflection-completeness -essentially, the moment a set of testing data gets significant traction, it becomes a target to optimize for.

Instead, I strongly recommend to put together a list of "control questions" of your own, that covers the general, and specific use cases you're interested in. Specifically, I'd recommend adding questions on topics you have high degree of expertise on; and topics where you can figure out what "expert" answer actually looks like; then run it against the available models by yourself.

Re: Gpt4all: A chatbot trained on ~800k GPT-3.5-Turbo Generations based on LLaMa

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post #22
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if when you train a model based on the weights of another model, do the owners of the original model have any sort of copyright claim? They trained it on data on which they had no copyright claim either, fwiw.

Why bother with the weights when you can just take the literal output of another model and consume as part of your training corpus? What kind of copyright claims can be made against the content generated by a model wielding the desired weights?

According to the US Copyright office's recent ruling, nothing generated by these models can be copyrighted (!), so in theory you should be fine!
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