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Re: Apple Music Classical

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> I never want Bach and Slayer in sequence. I've found interesting, creative serendipity in sequences like that. With dynamics controlling tools such as ReplayGain (and Apple Music has something similar built-in today though less well documented) to avoid massive "loudness war" shifts it doesn't even break a flow state for me sometimes and can be really interesting to my flow .

> and Apple Music has something similar built-in today though less well documented Can I enable that somehow, or is it enabled by default?

My understanding is that it is enabled by default. I wish it were better documented.

Apparently, the official feature name is "Sound Check": https://www.cultofmac.com/622492/apple-music-volume-sound-ch...

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Can't speak for generated compositions but midi data is played however your software is programmed to do so, which could include adding imperfections.

What I'm saying: take a classical score as is and input it perfectly as a midi file and you are guaranteed to have a terrible output. Yet on paper, it's perfectly rendered as the composer wrote it. This is why the act of playing music by a human is called a "performance", an "interpretation" in some languages. The musician is not just playing a score exactly as it is written, the musician gives a part of his/her into…

So the performers are following some learned patterns of what they need to do with the written score to make it sound not-terrible to you. I disagree that's only possible for a human to achieve.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Actually, I think it's a good thing they've built a separate app for that. We used to think that one app that rules all of them is a good idea. Not always. Classical music has a lot of nuances (some of which are listed on the announcement page) and from UI/UX perspective it would be quite difficult to mixed all these details in the standard Apple Music app. I'm now wondering what Spotify thinks about this matter. Do…

Ok, but why do they desperately repeat the link to their app SEVEN TIMES on this page? It doesn't feel "Appley".

Re: Apple Music Classical

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I only know of the upgrade splash screens where Dismiss is small and/or floating off of the brightly colored splash so it doesn't contrast and is harder to see. Exactly like Amazon Music.

That is nasty, but does not sound like a very bad behaviour. Annoying - yes, tricking user into doing something they had no intention to do - hardly.

Why did Apple desperately repeat the link to their app SEVEN TIMES on this page? It doesn't feel "Appley".

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Yes, I’ll join you in pouring one out for Rdio. I listened to, and paid for, Rdio every day for years until Spotify killed it. Rdio allowed users to fulfill simple goals — find music you know and listen to it; find new music and listen to it. The paths to those goals were simple and clear. Turns out it’s hard to make money that way. Thus why, I suppose, Spotify is a cornucopia of manipulative dark patterns.

I use spotify daily to listen to my playlists and find new music regularly. I have not noticed any dark patterns, apart from search on desktop being weird sometimes. What are they?

For one, all of the recommendations you receive are driven partly by sponsorship by major labels - release radar, the for you mix, and the radios you run from your playlists. This is not clearly documented online, but there is some coverage from when it was introduced in 2020. I'd be curious if anyone here has more up to date information.[0]

So one dark pattern would be the fact that the entire discovery system is partly driven by advertising incentives with no indication to the user about what recommendations are most genuine and what are being selected as the most-relevant sponsored option.

As an individual user, I think I've noticed this before. There was a span of time where every single playlist I made with hip hop on it would always bring up the same 2-3 JPEGMafia tracks in the radio mix, regardless of the playlists' individual content or the fact that I don't listen to that artist.

[0]https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/02/spotify-will-now-allow-art...

Re: Apple Music Classical

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Oh my, 192kHz/24bit. One would expect Apple would not need snake oil to sell their product. To those not so familiar with audio DSP: 192kHz and 24bit make perfect sense if you intend to mangle the audio a LOT afterwards. At 192kHz, you can pitch shift your audio down by two octaves and still have frequency content in the entire CD spectrum. Very useful, and common, for movie effects. And 24bit, or better even 32bit,…

192kHz is overkill of the overkill, but 10bit, seriously?! That is 1024 levels for the whole dynamic range, you are cutting it down to its 64th fraction man! With classical music where it is not filled up to the level of clipping but silent parts contain plenty of details you really must be joking with 10 bits or perhaps rely on listening experience of rap with through the roof bass and inarticulate jabber, there eve…

>perhaps rely on listening experience of rap with through the roof bass and inarticulate jabber, there even 6bits may be too much, I give you that.

I think you made a great recap on why this is good and especially good for classical music listeners. But I can't fathom why so many music lovers online are only able to communicate about their love of music while trashing a specific genre. I think more people should be exposed to high quality audio and know how to appreciate it, theorizing to the ignorant that their tastes are wrong because their preferred music is bad probably doesn't move the needle in that direction, and IMO, reflects a different ignorance.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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I second this! Couldn't agree more. In all honesty, some of the best parts of jazz lie in its history. For example listening to Clifford Brown might make you think "huh this is neat". But understanding his relationship to gillespie, early death, etc, puts his career in a unique and fascinating frame.

+1 on Clifford Brown. I think he wrote some of the most brilliant bop melodies and his death was probably one of the more tragic that music ever saw

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clifford_Brown

Re: Apple Music Classical

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I would love to see something like this for jazz, which has musicians constantly moving through groups and albums as musicians and composers and writers. Like take "Take Five", one of my favorites. It was written by Paul Desmond for the Dave Brubeck Quartet, with solos by Desmond on alto sax and Joe Morello on drums. Those are all fun pieces of information that I wish I could click through to see more of. Just like c…

That's an interesting idea, and a stone killer idea for jazz (imagine following the links from "Kind of Blue," where I think every player has their own discography to explore), but the utility wouldn't be limited to jazz.

Having prominent album personnel as links in really ANY popular music service would be great -- very often, players or producers on album A are also on album B, and that could lead to interesting discoveries for people.

I mean, this thing happens already, but only if you're motivated to read liner notes. 30+ years ago I figured out the cool atmospheric sounds I loved on THE JOSHUA TREE were probably because of U2's collaboration with Brian Eno and Daniel Lanois. When I realized both had albums of their own (and other artists with whom they collaborated) I had multiple new paths to explore.

Lanois resonated more with me than Eno, so I followed his work, which led me to artists I wouldn't have listened to otherwise for genre reasons or whatever.

It's also fun to pull on the producer thread sometimes. Lanois's track "The Maker", from his 1989 record ACADIE, shows up as a cover on several OTHER records he produced or otherwise influenced. Emmylou Harris included it (plus another of Lanois' songs) on her 1998 live album SPYBOY, which was the direct followup to the Lanois-helmed WRECKING BALL from the year before.

Willie Nelson included it on his 1998 collaboration with Lanois, TEATRO, which is an underrated and somewhat forgotten gem in his discography. It's NOT what you'd think of when someone says "country album."

(Eventually, the song became part of the Dave Matthews Band's live rep, even.)

Anyway, back then, you did it by reading liner notes, but digital music makes it less likely that you'll mull over the CD booklet while listening today. The good news is that the tech exists to make those paths more obvious now.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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So Apple wrote this. Worse yet, their specialists in classical music wrote this. The page is littered with Apple logos and it lives on a .Apple TLD, no need to be an apologist for 2.5 trillion dollar company.

I mean, there’s also no need to freak the fuck out over a minor issue in German text on a predominantly English page. Ok, so “Mondschein Sonata” isn’t exactly the same as “mondscheinsonate”, but it’s damn close and it gets the point across: Some works have different names in different languages. Guess what happens when I search Apple Classical for “mondscheinsonate”. In fact, don’t guess. Try it.

It may not be a consequential error, but it a revealing one.

Re: Apple Music Classical

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The banner image they have showing a collection of album covers is ≥58% Goldberg variations. I wonder how large a catalogue they have, or whether perhaps the creators of this are just big Bach boys.
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