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Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Every couple of weeks Windows shows a FULL SCREEN advertisement during boot/login which requires several clicks to get rid of. They advertise everything starting from Microsoft Accounts, OneDrive, MS Edge ( https://www.windowslatest.com/2020/11/15/windows-10-is-now-n... ) , Windows 11 ( https://mspoweruser.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/167013949... ) , and a long etc. This is not a small advert in a small corner of…

This also happens to a machine that's left on overnight. Something Happens and it reboots - I lose my RDP connection - to this awful dialog.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

#43

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I wish Apple was actually good in that regard. I ended up uninstalling Apple Stocks app from my Mac and iPhone because of all the terrible ads. The ads I saw were even worse than this: https://images.app.goo.gl/dVbDoBuScVzp3uAg9

wtf, i have never seen any add in ios including stock app

I think that's in the Apple News "Business News" section at the bottom. I'd never noticed it before myself.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

#44
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I feel like I'm on crazy pills when I complain about these things and all the other intrusions Windows pops up at me every time I use the operating system... Yet, the people who use it (mostly gamers), seem to think it's all fine and the operating system is great.

If you’re a gamer, how do you interact with the computer? You launch Steam, see a bunch of ads, launch Epic Game Store or GOG Galaxy and see a bunch of ads, so why wouldn’t you see ads in the start menu? Hell, you have to log in to an account for the “GeForce Experience”. Just to keep your graphics card drivers automatically updated. As soon as you’re in a game, the game is full-screen. You’re not switching apps, you…

Steam, EGS and GOG are stores. Ads are expected in stores. The OS that runs my computer is not.

I would expect ads on Windows when I open the built-in app store, but not on the Start Menu.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

#45
post #9

I feel like I'm on crazy pills when I complain about these things and all the other intrusions Windows pops up at me every time I use the operating system... Yet, the people who use it (mostly gamers), seem to think it's all fine and the operating system is great.

If you’re a gamer, how do you interact with the computer? You launch Steam, see a bunch of ads, launch Epic Game Store or GOG Galaxy and see a bunch of ads, so why wouldn’t you see ads in the start menu? Hell, you have to log in to an account for the “GeForce Experience”. Just to keep your graphics card drivers automatically updated. As soon as you’re in a game, the game is full-screen. You’re not switching apps, you…

Personally I never see these ads on Windows even though I think they sound terrible. I must just have the right group policy settings or something.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

#46

I feel like I'm on crazy pills when I complain about these things and all the other intrusions Windows pops up at me every time I use the operating system... Yet, the people who use it (mostly gamers), seem to think it's all fine and the operating system is great.

> Yet, the people who use it (mostly gamers), seem to think it's all fine and the operating system is great.

I hate Windows these days, but the specific AMD video card in my gaming desktop has buggy drivers in Linux and reliably crashes the whole machine about once every four hours (or, much faster if I actually play a game on it—that's if I'm just web browsing and hanging out in terminals and such) versus my having had zero OS-level crashes on the same hardware over almost three years under Windows 10. So... Windows it is.

IDK, the driver may be fixed now, but the bug had been outstanding for 18+ months when I encountered it, so, I wouldn't bet on it. It seemed to have very little traction. And at this point it's really not worth my time to try, since the machine's working OK as-is, aside from Windows being crap.

Since all I do on Windows is game, having to avoid some ads isn't that big a deal. I spend nearly all my time on it in fullscreen programs anyway, hardly interacting with Windows at all.

So it's "great" in that it actually works correctly on my hardware, and ~all my games work just as they should. It's shit in every other way, but if it's effectively just a game launcher, oh well. I do anything important on other operating systems.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

#47

I feel like I'm on crazy pills when I complain about these things and all the other intrusions Windows pops up at me every time I use the operating system... Yet, the people who use it (mostly gamers), seem to think it's all fine and the operating system is great.

> Yet, the people who use it (mostly gamers), seem to think it's all fine and the operating system is great. A lot of assumptions in such a short sentence. I suspect there's more than a complex set of opinions around Windows, Windows 10, Windows 11, using Windows for gaming, thinking it's all fine, thinking lots of things suck, thinking it is a great operating system, thinking it's a shame it does things outside of t…

Actually I am very frustrated by the advantages it does have, because I want to stay on 10 badly. But there are two nice ones -

- WiFi 6(e) 6Ghz band support is only in Win 11

- Direct GPU access from WSL2 for things like CUDA/ML programming is Win 11 only

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

#49
post #35

Every couple of weeks Windows shows a FULL SCREEN advertisement during boot/login which requires several clicks to get rid of. They advertise everything starting from Microsoft Accounts, OneDrive, MS Edge ( https://www.windowslatest.com/2020/11/15/windows-10-is-now-n... ) , Windows 11 ( https://mspoweruser.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/167013949... ) , and a long etc. This is not a small advert in a small corner of…

>What on Earth could they possibly do now to top that ? Autoplaying videos with sound

That auto pause if your eyes look away.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

#50

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This does not look at all legitimate

I’ve purchased a handful of keys over the years. It’s legit.

They’re OEM keys which are against EULA to use in this way. It might work now, but they could ban those keys later if they want to.
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