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Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Post by smnrchrds »

otikik wrote: post #12
AshamedCaptain wrote: post #3

Every couple of weeks Windows shows a FULL SCREEN advertisement during boot/login which requires several clicks to get rid of. They advertise everything starting from Microsoft Accounts, OneDrive, MS Edge ( https://www.windowslatest.com/2020/11/15/windows-10-is-now-n... ) , Windows 11 ( https://mspoweruser.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/167013949... ) , and a long etc. This is not a small advert in a small corner of…

Each one of those ads is a free ad for Apple and Linux. “If you had Apple, you wouldn’t have to endure this!”

I wish Apple was actually good in that regard. I ended up uninstalling Apple Stocks app from my Mac and iPhone because of all the terrible ads. The ads I saw were even worse than this:

https://images.app.goo.gl/dVbDoBuScVzp3uAg9

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Post by at-fates-hands »

otikik wrote: post #12
AshamedCaptain wrote: post #3

Every couple of weeks Windows shows a FULL SCREEN advertisement during boot/login which requires several clicks to get rid of. They advertise everything starting from Microsoft Accounts, OneDrive, MS Edge ( https://www.windowslatest.com/2020/11/15/windows-10-is-now-n... ) , Windows 11 ( https://mspoweruser.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/167013949... ) , and a long etc. This is not a small advert in a small corner of…

Each one of those ads is a free ad for Apple and Linux. “If you had Apple, you wouldn’t have to endure this!”

I saw this coming a few months ago and had the same reaction.

I was already in the market for a new PC. I'm just finalizing what version of Linux I want to run for my dev work and then I'm going to offload my Adobe work onto a Mac Mini and finally get rid of Windows once and for all.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Post by grujicd »

samhuk wrote: post #15
jdlyga wrote: post #4

Windows 11 has already lost the marketing battle. They should have kept the version number at 10 and gone with a "ui refresh" update. People aren't going to switch until Windows 12 is released.

They will likely just discontinue Windows 10 to force everybody onto 11 in good time; like they tried to do with Windows 7. I'm on Windows 10 at the moment and no way am I upgrading. From what I've seen and heard so far, 11 is an absolute festering nightmare.

Windows 10 support ends on October 2025, as of things stand now.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Post by whalesalad »

jjice wrote: post #10

Don't they still charge a $100+ license for Windows? I have Windows 10 for games, but I haven't booted into it in months since Steam has been fantastic on Linux (relative to it's past, it has some ways to go). I'll be the classic Linux desktop optimist: the improvements over the last four years along have been fantastic and I really hope for a future when it can meet everyone's needs. My OS shouldn't advertise to me.…

They do and it is absurd. I bought Win11 Pro from here for about $20, the price has since gone up a bit: https://www.vip-urcdkey.com/key/microsoft-windows-11-pro-oem...

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Post by latsnoopy »

smnrchrds wrote: post #21
otikik wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Each one of those ads is a free ad for Apple and Linux. “If you had Apple, you wouldn’t have to endure this!”

I wish Apple was actually good in that regard. I ended up uninstalling Apple Stocks app from my Mac and iPhone because of all the terrible ads. The ads I saw were even worse than this: https://images.app.goo.gl/dVbDoBuScVzp3uAg9

wtf, i have never seen any add in ios including stock app

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Post by grujicd »

jjice wrote: post #10

Don't they still charge a $100+ license for Windows? I have Windows 10 for games, but I haven't booted into it in months since Steam has been fantastic on Linux (relative to it's past, it has some ways to go). I'll be the classic Linux desktop optimist: the improvements over the last four years along have been fantastic and I really hope for a future when it can meet everyone's needs. My OS shouldn't advertise to me.…

Professional is more like $200, and has all that crap as home version.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Post by troymc »

klodolph wrote: post #9
eugenekolo wrote: post #5

I feel like I'm on crazy pills when I complain about these things and all the other intrusions Windows pops up at me every time I use the operating system... Yet, the people who use it (mostly gamers), seem to think it's all fine and the operating system is great.

If you’re a gamer, how do you interact with the computer? You launch Steam, see a bunch of ads, launch Epic Game Store or GOG Galaxy and see a bunch of ads, so why wouldn’t you see ads in the start menu? Hell, you have to log in to an account for the “GeForce Experience”. Just to keep your graphics card drivers automatically updated. As soon as you’re in a game, the game is full-screen. You’re not switching apps, you…

It would be nice if there was a univesal ad blocker that worked everywhere...

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Post by Apreche »

On the fresh install of Windows I do see some ads and ad-adjacent things. But once I disable all of them, that's it. No more. I haven't seen anything at all like this since install day a couple years back.

My guess is that people aren't going through and disabling everything. Also, people aren't using piholes which are probably blocking everything that can't be disabled.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Post by JohnFen »

klodolph wrote: post #9
eugenekolo wrote: post #5

I feel like I'm on crazy pills when I complain about these things and all the other intrusions Windows pops up at me every time I use the operating system... Yet, the people who use it (mostly gamers), seem to think it's all fine and the operating system is great.

If you’re a gamer, how do you interact with the computer? You launch Steam, see a bunch of ads, launch Epic Game Store or GOG Galaxy and see a bunch of ads, so why wouldn’t you see ads in the start menu? Hell, you have to log in to an account for the “GeForce Experience”. Just to keep your graphics card drivers automatically updated. As soon as you’re in a game, the game is full-screen. You’re not switching apps, you…

> ads are a part of how we consume content these days.

They aren't a part of how I do it.

Re: Windows 11 KB5023778 update adds promotions to the Start menu

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Post by michaelmrose »

whalesalad wrote: post #24
jjice wrote: post #10

Don't they still charge a $100+ license for Windows? I have Windows 10 for games, but I haven't booted into it in months since Steam has been fantastic on Linux (relative to it's past, it has some ways to go). I'll be the classic Linux desktop optimist: the improvements over the last four years along have been fantastic and I really hope for a future when it can meet everyone's needs. My OS shouldn't advertise to me.…

They do and it is absurd. I bought Win11 Pro from here for about $20, the price has since gone up a bit: https://www.vip-urcdkey.com/key/microsoft-windows-11-pro-oem...

This does not look at all legitimate
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