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Belgian man dies by suicide following exchanges with ChatGPT

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Re: Belgian man dies by suicide following exchanges with ChatGPT

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I'm familiar with this ELIZA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA Is there some recreation of ELIZA that uses ChatGPT under the hood that the article is talking about?

This was my first thought as well. The ELIZA I am familiar with is nowhere near sophisticated enough to have this sort of effect.

The article says "ELIZA, the name given to a chatbot that uses OpenAI's ChatGPT"

I guess colliding with names used by their ancestors was not forbidden by OpenAI's CoC?

Re: Belgian man dies by suicide following exchanges with ChatGPT

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post #10
post #5

Strange story: ELIZA's the name of a crude parody of a chatbot, produced in the 1960s.

Eh, it was the original therapy chatbot. Focused on Rodgerian psychotherapy. I'm not even sure ChatGPT existed two years ago. It seems like a very odd story. I wonder what the core facts are.

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Re: Belgian man dies by suicide following exchanges with ChatGPT

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A little fact checking.

1. ChatGPT is not a full year on the marked... how can he chatted with it for 2 years then?

2. Eliza was build 1966 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA

3. What did he actuly read in these conversations? - was it really that harmful to drive someone into suicide?

I think this entire article is fake news and a extremely bad anecdote

Re: Belgian man dies by suicide following exchanges with ChatGPT

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0 mention of why the Chatbot is the reason he killed himself. Not saying it is untrue but without anything describing what conversations took place this just seems like fearmongering.

I imagine the medical industry is patiently waiting for GPT to misdiagnose someone and they die. Then they can push for legislation to entrench their monopoly further.

(Which ignores the multi million misdiagnosis Physicians do every year, but fear and lobbying is a powerful motivator)

Re: Belgian man dies by suicide following exchanges with ChatGPT

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> However, about two years ago, the first signs of trouble started to appear. The man became very eco-anxious and found refuge with ELIZA, the name given to a chatbot that uses OpenAI's ChatGPT technology,

This doesn't make sense, Eliza is a very old pattern matcing chatbot, and even if someone used a name for something new, ChatGPT is not two years old.

Sounds like they mixed up their buzzwords.

Still a tragedy, automated tools are probably the worst way to deal with this.

Re: Belgian man dies by suicide following exchanges with ChatGPT

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post #2

So it took 48 hours for this prediction to come true rather than '3 ~ 6 months'. [0] [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35311735

This only makes me concerned we get locally run LLMs before the various medical cartels can lobby congress.
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