I understand the concern about this being rather useless fluff with no real differentiation beyond a cute and UX. However, as someone who grew up playing music, I truly believe that listening to "difficult" music exercises the brain in a way similar to reading a good book. Because of that, I am all for any lipstick on a pig that might bring the general public deeper into classical music.
Apple Music Classical
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#232Wished there is an option to control the dynamic range.
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#233Strange feelings looking at this... This is almost exactly the product I failed to get into YC with back in 2017... All the same ideas as far as the UX goes with one main difference: the business model. I wanted to apply the Steam business model where people would actually buy album again (and not tracks a la iTunes). The issue is that while it's nice to have a UX tailored for classical, this won't likely help the cl…
I love how patient classical music fans are when people ask THE SAME QUESTION over and over and over again on forums as to why there’s a need for a separate classical music app. You classical music fans rock…
I would say the classical music fans deeply tremolo instead of "rock".
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#234I would love to see something like this for jazz, which has musicians constantly moving through groups and albums as musicians and composers and writers. Like take "Take Five", one of my favorites. It was written by Paul Desmond for the Dave Brubeck Quartet, with solos by Desmond on alto sax and Joe Morello on drums. Those are all fun pieces of information that I wish I could click through to see more of. Just like c…
I second this! Couldn't agree more. In all honesty, some of the best parts of jazz lie in its history. For example listening to Clifford Brown might make you think "huh this is neat". But understanding his relationship to gillespie, early death, etc, puts his career in a unique and fascinating frame.
Re: Apple Music Classical
#235Strange feelings looking at this... This is almost exactly the product I failed to get into YC with back in 2017... All the same ideas as far as the UX goes with one main difference: the business model. I wanted to apply the Steam business model where people would actually buy album again (and not tracks a la iTunes). The issue is that while it's nice to have a UX tailored for classical, this won't likely help the cl…
I can definitely see why they passed. In 2017, it was already clear that streaming options render any music-purchasing platform niche at best, and a shrinking niche at that. Sad, but true.
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#236Pretty irritating that for the last week or so, when I search classical music on my iPhone, the first result was an empty playlist that told me there is a classical music app coming.
Great. I have an app for listening to music from Apple called Music. I don’t really want yet another app and the mental overhead that comes with it.
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#237> There’s no separate subscription for Apple Music Classical. It’s included at no extra cost with all Apple Music subscriptions except the Apple Music Voice Plan. Bit of a missed opportunity here to provide a cheaper subscription just for Classical. Apple could have captured Spotify users who would be willing to pay a small premium for a nicer classical UX, but would be unwilling to take out an additional full-priced…
Beyond pricing, what's their strategy here trying to unbundle music? Are they going to release a different music app for every genre? If it's just a classical app, does that mean I now have to use two apps to switch between music based on genre? What benefit is there other than slightly better UX which presumably could be bundled in an existing app.
> What benefit is there other than slightly better UX
The way people (like me) listen to classical music is different from the way they listen to other kinds of music. For example, I might want to listen to Beethoven's String Quartet No. 12. This has four movements, and I want the player to play from movement 1 through movement 4 once I touch the play button. This is very different from wanting to play (say) Price Tag by Jessie J which is one track.
Furthermore, the meta data standards for music do not work that well for classical music. It requires some thoughtful manipulation to present the meta data correctly for this genre. For example, if you search for Mozart's Don Giovanni on Apple Music, and you are looking for a particular track, you may see something like this:
"1. Mozart, Don Giovanni Act ....." "2. Mozart, Don Giovanni Act ....." "3. Mozart, Don Giovanni Act ....."
Now the "Track Title" meta data field for track 2 probably has something like this:
"2. Mozart, Don Giovanni Act 1: Notte e giorno faticar"
If the programmers of Apple Music had read the spec carefully, they would have learned that the part of the track title after the colon is the actual track title, so they should show that first.
There are other issues with the meta data, but I tried the Apple Classical music player last night, and it is good. Finally a music player that works for me, not against me.
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#238Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's perfectly reasonable for Western people to use "Classical" as a shorthand for "Western Classical". It's easy enough to apply a modifier if we want to talk about Indian Classical or Persian Classical or whatever. It doesn't mean we don't care about music from other areas, just that the default is to refer to our own musical traditions. The same is true of people from India and Iran—Indians are usually India-centr…
US culture is exported everywhere, so it is only fair to ask for accuracy.
What does western classical music have to do with the US?
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#239I would love to see something like this for jazz, which has musicians constantly moving through groups and albums as musicians and composers and writers. Like take "Take Five", one of my favorites. It was written by Paul Desmond for the Dave Brubeck Quartet, with solos by Desmond on alto sax and Joe Morello on drums. Those are all fun pieces of information that I wish I could click through to see more of. Just like c…
Check out https://roonlabs.com
Roon uses a database-style approach to keep track of the differences between compositions vs performances + artists vs composers. It’s peerless for Jazz.
It also has many of the “Apple Music Classical” features already like breaking out movements from tracks.
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#240> There’s no separate subscription for Apple Music Classical. It’s included at no extra cost with all Apple Music subscriptions except the Apple Music Voice Plan. Bit of a missed opportunity here to provide a cheaper subscription just for Classical. Apple could have captured Spotify users who would be willing to pay a small premium for a nicer classical UX, but would be unwilling to take out an additional full-priced…
It got me to abandon Spotify entirely and switch over to Apple Music. I’ve become more and more discontented with Spotify’s in-app experience and this was the last little nudge I needed apparently.