I would not mind more permanent (subsets of) standards on all platforms. The only stable environments that seem to exist are accidental, being emulators for dead platforms like Dosbox or UAE. Software for a modern, non-dead, platform is almost guaranteed to run at best for a few years before it, as they say, rots.
I don’t want a new phone, but I’m probably buying one
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Re: I don’t want a new phone, but I’m probably buying one
#232If they want to use an old phone, they can just stop updating their apps and not installing new apps. I still own a iPad 3 with the same, old, software stack from 2013. It still works, I can do things. I just don't expect todays developers to make a herculean effort so that I can run their apps on my old device. It is not just the overhead of supporting multiple different OS versions with different technologies, it i…
> I still own a iPad 3 with the same, old, software stack from 2013. It still works, I can do things. I just don't expect todays developers to make a herculean effort so that I can run their apps on my old device. The fact that "it still works" isn't the only consideration though - it's the security posture. There's plenty of remotely-exploitable flaws in that software stack from 2013.
What's a good site to read postmortems on hacks carried out against consumer banking apps using iOS versions with obsolete "security posture?" I haven't run across any such reports but can't say they don't exist.
Nowadays, most security features and upgrades are designed to protect the device against its owner.
Re: I don’t want a new phone, but I’m probably buying one
#233Earlier quoted context omitted.
I still use my OnePlus 5 which is now (almost) 5 years old! It has 8GB of memory with Android 13 and a custom ROM. It's still faster than some phones that are released today. I agree though that some apps are extremely resource intensive for the sometimes seemingly things they have to do.
Funny. I'm still on a OnePlus 6 and I see similar bizarre freezes as OP when I open the photo gallery. Or just when starting the camera often I have to wait 15-20s before the phone realizes that I have pictures. Sometimes when swiping through the gallery it will become excessively slow and stop reacting to panning / swiping / zooming. It's what is driving me close to grabbing a new phone at some point this year.
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#234I've mentioned this on here before, but my otherwise perfectly functional Pixel 3A has been out of security-patch support for nearly a year. It's disgusting honestly, my only options are to try to find some open source project keeping patches up to date, have my most important information on an unpatched device, or throw it in the trash.
You can put Lineage OS on it and have security patches again:
Re: I don’t want a new phone, but I’m probably buying one
#235Earlier quoted context omitted.
Remember back in 2002 where if you connect an unpatched windows machine to the internet, it would only be a few minutes before it got infected? Well running unpatched stuff is no longer like that. I bet you could use a 2013 iDevice for a whole year and not get exploited once. Exploits are mostly against the rich and famous now, and not so much against regular joe.
> Remember back in 2002 where if you connect an unpatched windows machine to the internet, it would only be a few minutes before it got infected? Was that actually true, or just an urban legend? I've heard this a lot back then, but never actually saw it happen.
It was true. I got happy99.exe almost immediately when I accidentally plugged a cable into an RJ45 jack upstream of my NAT gateway.
Not a big threat downstream.
Re: I don’t want a new phone, but I’m probably buying one
#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
The original iPad mini 2 with cellular was $529 when introduced ten years ago, not $300. The current iPad mini with cellular was $649 when introduced one and a half years ago. Both of those numbers are the actual US Dollar prices for both products. Your pricing information is not correct.
$349, plus tax of 30.36, on April 7, 2015. Still have the invoice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPad_Mini_2
>Introductory price
>Wi-Fi: 16 GB: $399, 32 GB: $499, 64 GB: $599, 128 GB: $699
>Wi-Fi + Cellular: 16 GB: $529, 32 GB: $629, 64 GB: $729, 128 GB: $829
I have a Jan 7, 2015 receipt from Apple for a 16GB Wifi only iPad mini for $300, and that was for the first version of iPad mini.
Perhaps you bought it with a special promotional price.
Re: I don’t want a new phone, but I’m probably buying one
#237Earlier quoted context omitted.
Remember back in 2002 where if you connect an unpatched windows machine to the internet, it would only be a few minutes before it got infected? Well running unpatched stuff is no longer like that. I bet you could use a 2013 iDevice for a whole year and not get exploited once. Exploits are mostly against the rich and famous now, and not so much against regular joe.
> Remember back in 2002 where if you connect an unpatched windows machine to the internet, it would only be a few minutes before it got infected? Was that actually true, or just an urban legend? I've heard this a lot back then, but never actually saw it happen.
It was true. This was mostly because Windows XP had several open ports by default, and before SP2 (released in 2004) did not have a firewall. So when a vulnerable service in the default install was found behind a default-open port it would spread and replicate extremely quickly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaster_(computer_worm)
Re: I don’t want a new phone, but I’m probably buying one
#238I wonder if the SE just was released with too little memory.
I bought a iPhone SE 2020 and swapped it out a little over a year later for an iPhone 14Pro because of the app reset issue (granted I bought the phone when it already had been on the market for a while). Before that I had my iPhone 6S for over 5 years and had expected to keep the SE for much longer as well. I now also wish memory numbers were more of a focus when Apple releases a new phone. We keep hearing about storage, cameras neutral processors and yet lack of memory makes the device a pain to use shortly after release. I only now looked up memory for these devices on Wikipedia and the 2020 SE has only 2Gb of memory, just like the iPhone 6SE had! I'm honestly shocked that the SE still had the same memory as a phone 5 years earlier and also by how low the absolute numbers are.
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#239Earlier quoted context omitted.
They might have enabled it without understanding what could (and did) happen. Victim-blaming isn't the answer here -- that was a genuine clusterfuck that hosed a lot of working installations for no good reason.
You mean if you enable “automatic iOS updates” you don’t expect automatic iOS updates? Or do you mean that when the user specifically enables “automatic iOS updates”, Apple shouldn’t automatically do iOS updates ? If we don’t “blame the victim” for explicitly making a choice , who is at fault?
There was no reason to think you'd be effectively cut off from half your apps if you enabled automatic upgrades. Or that many of the apps you could still use would be forcibly "upgraded" to subscription models, as iTeleport tried to pull.
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#240Earlier quoted context omitted.
So should we force product owners to support multiple older versions of clients, even though the backend is progressed? Who will pay for this extra cost, the users who don't upgrade their devices? I don't think so. Do every rule has to be written, or does writing them into law makes it logical every time? App owners can add "we only support client versions which is max 6 months older than current stable version" to t…
We should force product owners to stop designing their products as thin clients of server-side APIs. Then there won't be any support costs for older devices.
How does that work for a lot of the apps described in the article? Railroad tickets get purchased without web access how? Would all map data for the map applications mentioned in the article be downloaded with the app?