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Re: Can you buy the same ticket at a lower price if you buy it from another country?

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Post by yardstick »

abliefern wrote: post #164
eloisant wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the reality of air travel, 90% of the flights (thus the CO2 emissions) are made by a handful of frequent travellers. Moreover those are very unlikely to be willing to cut on air travel for CO2 emission reasons. So you shouldn't feel bad for your occasional air travel.

> So you shouldn't feel bad for your occasional air travel. I don't understand the implied ethical rule behind this mentality. CO2 emissions are always a problem and to be avoided. What am I missing?

> CO2 emissions are always a problem and to be avoided.

Not possible without everyone simply deciding to not have kids.

Re: Can you buy the same ticket at a lower price if you buy it from another country?

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Post by yardstick »

abliefern wrote: post #166
unsupp0rted wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don’t take CO2 behavior instruction from people who have children. I can fly international 365 days a year for decades. But my children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren will have 0 carbon footprint because they’ll never exist. Conversely, eat bugs and recycle coke cans if you want, but that’s a fraction of a fraction of a drop in the bucket if you’ve had even one kid.

Grandchildren and great-grandchildren don't factor in, we'll be close to carbon neutral by then anyway.

Then it’s time to move onto other pressing environmental issues, like recycling all the electric car batteries, and the ethics of lithium and rare Earth mineral mining.

There will always be something less than ideal.

Re: Can you buy the same ticket at a lower price if you buy it from another country?

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Post by twosdayz »

KptMarchewa wrote: post #120
acjacobson wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And sadly industry dwarfs the CO2 emissions of this frequent flyer (and the rest of us personally). While it's admirable to work on ways of ways to reduce your personal footprint (especially as a way to communicate the problem to others) - actually impacting CO2 levels needs to come from broad regulation. The numbers are just too large and skewed.

Industry provides valuable products for billions of people. Hundreds of reckless flights that could be zoom meetings benefit no one.

What was the market for zoom meetings 5-10 years ago?

Re: Can you buy the same ticket at a lower price if you buy it from another country?

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

robbiet480 wrote: post #113
1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why book through Kiwi or Skyscanner if booking through Chase earns triple rewards points.

Chase (and AmEx) travel sucks to deal with if you have an issue with your flight. Much better to book direct so you can deal with the airlines directly even at the cost of losing 3x. Same deal with points, much better spent by transferring out to an airline or their partner vs using them for 1cpp on one of the cards OTAs.

100% this. I book a decent amount of my leisure flights on Sapphire points only. Rebooking is trivial if you book directly with an airline, you can often do it within the app for that airline itself. Rebooking with Chase is often a 30-60 minute ordeal that can only be done over the phone involving 2-3 transfers. Often this is not even something that is your fault - the airline can rug pull the flight by changing the time or cancelling it, forcing you to undergo this ritual.

Re: Can you buy the same ticket at a lower price if you buy it from another country?

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Post by unsupp0rted »

public_defender wrote: post #170
unsupp0rted wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don’t take CO2 behavior instruction from people who have children. I can fly international 365 days a year for decades. But my children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren will have 0 carbon footprint because they’ll never exist. Conversely, eat bugs and recycle coke cans if you want, but that’s a fraction of a fraction of a drop in the bucket if you’ve had even one kid.

In addition to being toxic and irrelevant to the parent comments (who mentioned kids?), This argument is a red herring. Of course if everyone dies, we mitigate anthropogenic climate change, but that doesn't really further our analysis of the issue. There is nothing inherent in children that uses carbon, it is human behavior in the context of petro-capitalism that uses carbon. If I have thirteen kids and they live on…

Labeling a comment “Toxic” is a good way to shut down interesting discussion.

The parent said:

> [international flights taken often] completely dwarfs any [CO2] savings I could reasonably expect to make.

What dwarfs CO2 savings isn’t so much an individual’s international flights, it’s an individual creating more individuals that create more individuals.

Your thirteen kids on a farm cooperative are likely to have and eat cows, which is plenty of tonnes of methane. Not to mention the number of children that 13 couples will produce afterward.

My 0 kids will require 0 cows and 0 methane.

Having children is important for the propagation of the human race and I want our race to be propagated.

But it makes no sense to lecture somebody about their greenhouse gas emissions while taking action that results in a thousand or a million more greenhouse gas.

If you believe having children is a net positive, go for it. I’m not lecturing you to avoid it.

Re: Can you buy the same ticket at a lower price if you buy it from another country?

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Post by autoexec »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #159
autoexec wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's fair I guess, try this one: https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/mac-users-pa...

That is from 10+ years ago, and it was a travel agent (Orbitz.com) charging more for hotel nights (increasing their cut). The hotel itself never charged Mac users more, and I have never seen or heard of Hyatt/Marriott/Hilton/etc websites charging based on which operating system they think the query is coming from. I have yet to see proof that airlines or hotels or car rental companies directly put out different price…

> I have yet to see proof that airlines or hotels or car rental companies directly put out different prices to customers based on the device being used, or even anything else.

That's much less fair, but try this which explicitly states that airlines in the US set prices according to a customer’s personal information.

https://catalaconsulting.co.uk/why-hotel-personalized-pricin...

and note this source in particular:

https://www.duettocloud.com/press-releases/duetto-gamechange...

Companies are already prepared to sell this to hotels as a service: https://blog.guestcentric.com/personalized-prices-the-next-s...

Re: Can you buy the same ticket at a lower price if you buy it from another country?

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Post by PeterisP »

pwgentleman wrote: post #157
unsupp0rted wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don’t take CO2 behavior instruction from people who have children. I can fly international 365 days a year for decades. But my children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren will have 0 carbon footprint because they’ll never exist. Conversely, eat bugs and recycle coke cans if you want, but that’s a fraction of a fraction of a drop in the bucket if you’ve had even one kid.

How long term do you think this strategy is for the human kind? Does it span more than one generation?

IMHO a voluntary reduction in human population by a few billion through reduced birth is a perfectly viable, sustainable long-term strategy; all the drawbacks and criticisms appear when someone wants to encourage that with various means (i.e. not fully voluntarily) or when it's posed as some solution to things which need a faster reduction than possible this way, e.g. climate change won't be prevented even if we went totally zero-birth for a decade but the current population kept the current emission rates.

Re: Can you buy the same ticket at a lower price if you buy it from another country?

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Post by admissionsguy »

acjacobson wrote: post #112
WheatMillington wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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And sadly industry dwarfs the CO2 emissions of this frequent flyer (and the rest of us personally). While it's admirable to work on ways of ways to reduce your personal footprint (especially as a way to communicate the problem to others) - actually impacting CO2 levels needs to come from broad regulation. The numbers are just too large and skewed.

But it is not at all admirable to post passive-aggressive comments like they did here.

Re: Can you buy the same ticket at a lower price if you buy it from another country?

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Post by abliefern »

yardstick wrote: post #171
abliefern wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So you shouldn't feel bad for your occasional air travel. I don't understand the implied ethical rule behind this mentality. CO2 emissions are always a problem and to be avoided. What am I missing?

> CO2 emissions are always a problem and to be avoided. Not possible without everyone simply deciding to not have kids.

We were talking about flights?

Re: Can you buy the same ticket at a lower price if you buy it from another country?

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Post by severino »

WheatMillington wrote: post #91
yosito wrote: post #67

I've been flying internationally 10-15 times a year for ~10 years. Different routes and destinations each time. I've spent a lot of time searching for hacks like this that let me save a few bucks on flight tickets. Sometimes it works. Sometimes you find that a flight is cheaper depending on which country's website or currency you use to book. Flight tickets are priced dynamically using a variety of factors to determi…

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If you're worried about climate change, you should not spend your time and resources trying to reduce your own CO2 emissions, but instead, supporting and promoting regulations that force people like yosito to not being able to travel that much, so they will also forcibly start to reduce their footprint.
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