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You should note that large parts of the world's population have never consumed dairy throughout their history (except as infants, of course), and are still doing very well today (China being the largest such group). I don't think this is a good line of argument.
But they certainly are not vegan.
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> We must find a way to eliminate this lobbying/corruption, rather soon! Who is the person who is caving to pressure or accepting bribes and making changes to scientific results? We could start by finding names and calling for them to become unemployable anywhere they could cause further damage.
How bout punishing those handing out the bribes? Oh noes they are rich, powerful, well connected and have an army of lawyers. Let's rather fry the small fish. No snark intended.
We can try to increase regulations and enforcement, but as long as people don't face any consequence for accepting bribes, I don't like our odds getting those changes pushed through. Without the power of the law on our side, we're better off putting pressure on the small fish since it's hard to put real social pressure on corporations and industries that make more money in a year than the collective wealth of entire nations.
Also, if you eat only beef then you completely stop farting (and the volume of your poop falls by 80%).
I've often wondered why "cow farts" are considered such a terrible climate change concern but "human farts" aren't.
Were these the same people who told us the glaciers would be melted and the Maldives under water by 2000? How narcissistic do you have to be to believe the world is going to end in your little eye blink of a lifetime? Look, the West can go carbon negative, but it makes no difference at all if China and India just use the West's carbon virtue to increase their own carbon consumption (that the West isn't using). We rea…
This is pure FUD. > Were these the same people who told us the glaciers would be melted and the Maldives under water by 2000? Were they? Please tell us. > How narcissistic do you have to be to believe the world is going to end in your little eye blink of a lifetime? Who says that? Where in the article have you read something like that? > Look, the West can go carbon negative, but it makes no difference at all if Chin…
All this screaming, kicking and general attentionwhoring did nothing positive to the climate change topic. My friends are not conspiracy nuts or some low-life crazies, they're normal people with uni degrees working tech jobs and living middle-class lives. They have heard so much about their carbon footprint, about the inevitable climate catastrophe the upcoming years that is getting postponed every time, that they are just tired of that. There is no constructive solution from our elected leaders, just endless fear-mongering, finger-pointing and uncertain predictions.
[0] https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/greta-thunberg-deleted-201...
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the point is it doesn't matter that you are right - all involved parties have to do their part. rich guys point at average Joes and vice versa, and both don't take action because "but the others".
So, how about we ban private jets, both for rich guys and average Joes?
Once enough people are making sacrifices on their own, the tolerance of assholes polluting freely should finally become less and less, this can get the ball rolling.
Were these the same people who told us the glaciers would be melted and the Maldives under water by 2000? How narcissistic do you have to be to believe the world is going to end in your little eye blink of a lifetime? Look, the West can go carbon negative, but it makes no difference at all if China and India just use the West's carbon virtue to increase their own carbon consumption (that the West isn't using). We rea…
No. The article reports on scientific evidence. Are you a scientist doing scientific work on the climate impact of the meat industry or a scientist studying meat industry lobbying? If no then on what evidence do you base your scepticism about what the linked article says?
Do official recommendations like this really influence people's food choices? There have been calls for plant based diets for a long time and yet meat eating has been increasing.
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It's largely (heh) about their size and that they're not really as optimized for meat as e.g. pigs. They breed comparatively slowly and take longer to grow. Moreover the weight of a cow carcass is no higher than 60% that of the animal, while for pigs the lower bound is ~78%. Poultry is also very efficient in this regard, especially turkey yielding 80%+. Where I'm from domestically consumed beef comes mostly from dair…
The sooner we can get lab grown beef the better. I don't care if it's more expensive or even if it isn't as efficient in terms of energy input as growing, raising, and slaughtering actual cows. It'd still come with tons of benefits like reducing antibiotic use, taking up less land, causing less suffering, eliminating illnesses, etc.
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I’m not sure if you responded to the wrong comment or what because the parent is referencing environment impact but you’re referencing health impacts. From an environmental point of view, there’s a linear relationship between your consumption of beef and environmental impact. There is no amount of beef that is good for the environment. From a health point of view, it’s debated, however there are more studies that sho…
Dairy from cows grazing on marginal land that is not otherwise suitable / efficient for other cultures is very competitive as far as producing proteins is concerned. Proteins are a necessary nutrient. Industrial cattle fed corn is an entirely different story and should almost certainly be counted as a different category as far as climate impact is concerned.
No matter where you stand (some meat eaters tend to become extremely emotional on this): The fact that the scientific results and recommendations get utterly censored like this before publication makes me really angry. It’s somewhat fine for me if people/governments choose to ignore or argue against these results after publication, but this is just absurd… and is then used from people all over the world to point to „…
The problem here is, that the giant corporations can pollute the environment (eg. coca cola in a plastic bottle, with a plastic cap, with a plastic label, wrapped in a plastic 6-pack, with a plastic handle, on a plastic pallet wrapped in plastic foil), and rich environmentalists then fly their private jets to some 'green' conference and tell an 'average joe' that he shouldn't drive his car and eat meat, and should pa…
Refusing to engage in good action because you don't like the messenger is teenage angst behavior, not rational decision making.