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Post by paulddraper »

klodolph wrote: post #185
yamtaddle wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 1. The experience on Windows is terrible. They can claim it's cross-platform but it's truly a sub-par product. Like a lot of other Apple stuff, I'm only able to use it because I don't use anything non-Apple for anything "serious" that involves a GUI. Windows is for gaming, Linux is my file storage and docker-service-running server that I only interact with over SSH and Web. Ditto Notes, all their Office-type progra…

> Yeah, this is super fucking weird. You'd think this would be connected in some fashion to "keychain", but nope. Other browsers used to be able to use it. I do think it’s a really thorny issue—“allow this application to access all saved passwords?” is a pretty damn scary permission to include. Up there with the “allow this application to control your computer” permission that is used for accessibility apps (which ap…

Obviously the browser doesn't need to have unfettered access.

It just needs to tell the password "hey there's a password on wellsfargo.com" and then the password manager asks the user if they want to use the password. And maybe give access to all passwords.

IDK, what does safari do?

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Post by cjdoc29 »

reaperducer wrote: post #35
cjdoc29 wrote: post #2

I really like Apple's implementation of passwords, passkeys, etc. But...I had a hard time explaining this to my mom. She uses it to generate her passwords and fill-in within Safari which is great! But there's no "Passwords" app, and she didn't know to go into Settings to reference a password when Safari doesn't recognize a password field (probably the website's fault). 2FA is also a confusing experience, but 2FA is a…

But there's no "Passwords" app It's called Keychain Access.

iOS does not have "Keychain Access" as a named setting or app.

MacOS has both Keychain Access as a standalone app, and Passwords as a section in your settings. The latter is dedicated to purely passwords that you, as the user, make. Keychain Access also contains passwords for Wi-Fi and other systems.

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Post by jtbayly »

ngai_aku wrote: post #266
jtbayly wrote: post #260

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Are you referring to Airdrop password and passkey sharing?[1] That’s the only way I can find other than manual copy/paste. Also, I very much doubt if I later change the password I shared via Airdrop that it will update on the other person’s device… which is half the point. [1]: https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/share-passkeys-passwo...

Yeah, that’s how I share with my wife. I don’t anticipate that it would stay in sync if I updated it, but I can’t say that I’ve tried. Do you regularly rotate passwords?

No, but it does happen that passwords get updated, and the beauty of 1P is that you just save it, and then whoever has it gets the updated one. I share passwords with as many as 4 people, so it’s practically impossible to keep everybody in sync manually.

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Post by dhc02 »

elbigbad wrote: post #245
whalesalad wrote: post #161

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A 1pass team w/ my wife was a huge level-up.

Same, anytime the family creates a new account that everyone else should have access to (utilities, streaming services, bank information, pass codes, etc) we just create it in the shared vault. It’s a game changer.

Yep, same here. Honestly can't imagine living without it. [Wrings hands as he thinks about 1password's venture funding]

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Post by Saris »

monocularvision wrote: post #141

Am I the only person on Earth that needs sharing of passwords among my family? Any time folks bring up password solutions, they are always missing this requirement for me. 1Password is a life-saver in this regards. All my kids have their own vaults but for the little ones I have them use a shared vault between my wife and me so we have access to their passwords. I can also easily share passwords for services like Net…

I've been using bitwarden for that, the vaultwarden server is selfhosted which is what I do, or you can buy their fairly cheap premium version.

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Post by permo-w »

my issue with apple passwords is that you literally cannot put a password on them. iPhone forces you to use biometrics as your key for them. whatever you think about passwords vs biometrics, the fact that I literally cannot choose is ridiculous and a massive oversight

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Post by JenrHywy »

Saris wrote: post #275
monocularvision wrote: post #141

Am I the only person on Earth that needs sharing of passwords among my family? Any time folks bring up password solutions, they are always missing this requirement for me. 1Password is a life-saver in this regards. All my kids have their own vaults but for the little ones I have them use a shared vault between my wife and me so we have access to their passwords. I can also easily share passwords for services like Net…

I've been using bitwarden for that, the vaultwarden server is selfhosted which is what I do, or you can buy their fairly cheap premium version.

Same. Bitwarden (with self-hosted vaultwarden) so far seems to be a great solution. I had ben using `pass` for many years, but the lack of sharing functionality is what finally got me looking at other options.

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Post by r00fus »

permo-w wrote: post #276

my issue with apple passwords is that you literally cannot put a password on them. iPhone forces you to use biometrics as your key for them. whatever you think about passwords vs biometrics, the fact that I literally cannot choose is ridiculous and a massive oversight

Biometrics or your device passcode. My mom has a touchid phone (won't get the faceid due to paranoia) and she gives up on it during winter when her fingers get cracked due to the heating.

So when she logs into the device it always falls back to device passcode.

I am frustrated they won't allow you to do both bio+code, because that would prevent my kids from flashing my pilfered phone in my face to get it to unlock then running away.

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Post by kstrauser »

vbezhenar wrote: post #268

I tried to use Apple passwords. 1. It really hates storing anything but website passwords. I have servers with ssh login/passwords. I have bank cards with cvv and pins. I have phones with pins. WiFi passwords. And other things not fitting to website/username/password. 2. Not enough fields. I'm ascetic when it comes to storing passwords, but it doesn't even have "notes" field. So experience is subpar. It's possible to…

It does have a notes field now. I’m not sure when that was added.

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Post by mzmzmzm »

Tangential but I hate that Mozilla abandoned their password manager app that uses the sync service they still maintain, instead of adding a TOTP/OATH feature and giving people a better and more open option than Duo and skeezy password managers.
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