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Nvidia Unveils CuLitho: A “Breakthrough in Computational Lithography”

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Re: Nvidia Unveils CuLitho: A “Breakthrough in Computational Lithography”

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Post by lazystar »

daqhris wrote: post #25
highwaylights wrote: post #8

It's a good thing that all these new rapidly improving generative models we've built aren't able to do something as crazy like use the exact same hardware we're running them on to design better hardware for themselves. nervously laughs in Schwarzenegger

Do you realize that now any human willing to expertiment with them is free to do. All it take is Internet access and an email address. Or a GPU-powered computer to ran them locally. My point is that we can not rightfully estimate who is using it or not. Some LLM models are publicly released after many private trials. Some people had access to GPT4 about 6 to 9 months before the official release. Not accounting primar…

hence why i never use capital letters in my comms - an ai will always use capitals.

Re: Nvidia Unveils CuLitho: A “Breakthrough in Computational Lithography”

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Post by 29athrowaway »

copperx wrote: post #47
29athrowaway wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The pronunciation of a word depends of a variety of factors, such as the path a loan word followed to get into the language. There is no such thing as "when pronouncing foreign words with th, the sound is invariably converted to a T". Which sound are you referring to, the Greek "Θά" ('θa")? Or the English "th" which becomes the voiced dental fricative /ð/ or the voiceless dental fricative /θ/? Does "ethernet" have a…

> And the fact that you are native Spanish speaker makes little difference here. How trustworthy is a native Spanish speaker? You will know it when you navigate the Spanish speaking Internet and find most of it are antivaxxers, flat earthers and people that believe "US Navy" is a given name ("Usnavy"). I know this because I have native Spanish proficiency as well. Whoa. Even though I'm a Latino, I've never been offen…

> Whoa. Even though I'm a Latino, I've never been offended or felt discriminated against while living in the USA these last 20 years.

I am glad that you have not been offended or discriminated on the basis of race, ethnicity or national origin in 20 years. That sounds amazing and I hope that trend extends further into the future. The sad part is that it is irrelevant in this context. You could be an elf immigrant living in Mordor and that would have absolutely no relation to this whatsoever.

> But your comment is something else. It's obvious that you haven't interacted with any Spanish-speaking scientist, programmer, or really anyone that didn't skip high school.

The amount of incorrect information in your reply is directly proportional to its word length.

> Every Spanish-speaking IT professional pronounces ethernet as "eternet".

Do not promote your vernacular preferences to authoritative and official information.

> Not at you, but at the fact that your cowardly throwaway username hasn't been banned from HN yet.

I am sorry to inform you that "copperx" is also a pseudonym and that the coward designation you have so eagerly used to refer to me, would also apply to you as well if we follow your logic.

Re: Nvidia Unveils CuLitho: A “Breakthrough in Computational Lithography”

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Post by lcvw »

exabrial wrote: post #48

Perhaps someone can explain to me, why aren't x-rays or another high frequency EMF used? Sure we can't bounce x-rays off mirrors like we can light (or can we?), but seems like a logical step we've never taken for some reason I'm ignorant to.

You need the mirrors to focus the light. X-rays have been tried and they had problems, such as requiring the use of gold to block the x-rays in the mask.

Re: Nvidia Unveils CuLitho: A “Breakthrough in Computational Lithography”

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Post by 29athrowaway »

mynameisvlad wrote: post #45
29athrowaway wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The pronunciation of a word depends of a variety of factors, such as the path a loan word followed to get into the language. There is no such thing as "when pronouncing foreign words with th, the sound is invariably converted to a T". Which sound are you referring to, the Greek "Θά" ('θa")? Or the English "th" which becomes the voiced dental fricative /ð/ or the voiceless dental fricative /θ/? Does "ethernet" have a…

> And the fact that you are native Spanish speaker makes little difference here. How trustworthy is a native Spanish speaker? You will know it when you navigate the Spanish speaking Internet and find most of it are antivaxxers, flat earthers and people that believe "US Navy" is a given name ("Usnavy"). That has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of how something is pronounced in Spanish, which is ostensibly some…

That last paragraph was critique of the Spanish-speaking Internet, with a non-serious tone. A critique rooted in frustration due to exposure to the abundance of low quality content. There are oasis of high quality content, but the situation is worse than over here.

The proliferation of flat earth theory (as a movement, in its modern incarnation) and antivaxxers started in the English-speaking Internet.

Re: Nvidia Unveils CuLitho: A “Breakthrough in Computational Lithography”

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Post by shrx »

exabrial wrote: post #48

Perhaps someone can explain to me, why aren't x-rays or another high frequency EMF used? Sure we can't bounce x-rays off mirrors like we can light (or can we?), but seems like a logical step we've never taken for some reason I'm ignorant to.

You can focus X-rays, although I don't think nanometer resolution was achieved yet. For example: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-98888-8

Re: Nvidia Unveils CuLitho: A “Breakthrough in Computational Lithography”

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Post by anthk »

gonzus wrote: post #50
copperx wrote: post #2

I'd bet my house over a donut that a Spanish-speaking employee at Nvidia came up with that name. As my friend put it: "hmm, CuLitho de envidia."

Reminds me of the pico editor -- pico means penis in some Spanish-speaking countries (it also means beak, FWTW). I remember contacting that project to let them know, I guess they thought it would be alright.

Most Spanish speakers will read "pico" as "peck". Also, it means a little kiss in the lips in Spain, among "heroine shoot".

Yes, Spanish can be that polysemic. As English does with let, get and set.

Re: Nvidia Unveils CuLitho: A “Breakthrough in Computational Lithography”

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Post by WJW »

Insanity wrote: post #4
copperx wrote: post #2

I'd bet my house over a donut that a Spanish-speaking employee at Nvidia came up with that name. As my friend put it: "hmm, CuLitho de envidia."

My immediate thought was that they should have run this past any Spanish speaker in the company lol

Maybe they did and all involved thought it was hilarious.

Re: Nvidia Unveils CuLitho: A “Breakthrough in Computational Lithography”

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Post by anthk »

School-Cotton wrote: post #28
copperx wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And it's eyebrow-raising even if you say it with the H.

You can’t really say it with the “h”. Spanish has nothing corresponding to the English “h” sound, and the overwhelming majority of Spanish speakers speak dialects with nothing like the English “th” sound either (the ones that do have it spell it “c” or “z”, not “th”).

Well, everyone under 30 knows basic English (for Spanish speakers) such as "thanks".

Re: Nvidia Unveils CuLitho: A “Breakthrough in Computational Lithography”

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Post by WJW »

rowanG077 wrote: post #5

This seems to simply be an implementation of the algorithm on the GPU. I'm not saying it isn't worth doing that. But a breakthrough? I wouldn't call it that. This won't allow faster chips. It's only a time saver.

This will indeed allow faster chips, because reverse lithography used to be so slow that it was only used for the most critical parts of a chip. Now that it is more tractable, RL can be applied to many more parts of the chip. That will allow designers to better optimize the layout in those other parts, which leads to faster chips.

Re: Nvidia Unveils CuLitho: A “Breakthrough in Computational Lithography”

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Post by anthk »

29athrowaway wrote: post #44
copperx wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a native Spanish speaker and 2 and 3 are completely false. 1 is true, but when pronouncing foreign words with th, the sound is invariably converted to a T. Thanos is "Tanos," Thermos is "termo," Ethernet is "Eternet," and so on.

The pronunciation of a word depends of a variety of factors, such as the path a loan word followed to get into the language. There is no such thing as "when pronouncing foreign words with th, the sound is invariably converted to a T". Which sound are you referring to, the Greek "Θά" ('θa")? Or the English "th" which becomes the voiced dental fricative /ð/ or the voiceless dental fricative /θ/? Does "ethernet" have a…

>native Spanish

So am I. Ever heard of Barrapunto (Spanish Slashdot, RIP), Menéame (Spanish Digg), Naukas (a science boosting group)?

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