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Re: Nvidia Unveils CuLitho: A “Breakthrough in Computational Lithography”

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Post by 29athrowaway »

longemen3000 wrote: post #29
29athrowaway wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thermo is a loan word that people hispanize as "termo" (the Spanish equivalent).

well, thermo is from the greek word thérmē meaning heat. we use the termo- suffix for all things that involve heat (thermodynamics -> termodinámica, thermometer -> termómetro)

I am aware of the etymology you refer to, but in this case I am referring to something different.

The noun "termo" in Spanish is formally recognized by the RAE to refer to a vacuum insulated food jar (such as the ones sold by Thermos®), and that is the word I was referring to, as it is the most widely identifiable use of the word "termo" in Spanish.

https://dle.rae.es/termo

i.e.: "Pasame ese termo por favor?", "Se me ha quedado el termo en mi casa".

Re: Nvidia Unveils CuLitho: A “Breakthrough in Computational Lithography”

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Post by xbmcuser »

daqhris wrote: post #25
highwaylights wrote: post #8

It's a good thing that all these new rapidly improving generative models we've built aren't able to do something as crazy like use the exact same hardware we're running them on to design better hardware for themselves. nervously laughs in Schwarzenegger

Do you realize that now any human willing to expertiment with them is free to do. All it take is Internet access and an email address. Or a GPU-powered computer to ran them locally. My point is that we can not rightfully estimate who is using it or not. Some LLM models are publicly released after many private trials. Some people had access to GPT4 about 6 to 9 months before the official release. Not accounting primar…

Yup this is one of the reasons why when I see people talk about how it can't do this or that I am shocked by the blinders people have. Specially people working in science fields. There are millions of very smart people with access to a lot of data that previously that they might not have been able to use but now they will be able to. I can't read the millions of science papers published over the years but the kinds of AI/language models that have started to crop up can. I predict a lot of different scientific fields not just medical will have sea change as more people start realising what kind of tool these language models are and how they can be used.

Re: Nvidia Unveils CuLitho: A “Breakthrough in Computational Lithography”

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Post by akiselev »

mchaver wrote: post #13
Insanity wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My immediate thought was that they should have run this past any Spanish speaker in the company lol

I guess they all agreed it was a great name. Nvidia: my cuLitho brings all the boys to the lab and they're like it operates at the limits of Physics!

   My culitho brings all the boys to the lab,
   And they're like, it's better than a silicon fab,
   We're laughing our way to the top,
   With computational power that won't stop!
   We'll be etching those chips to the groove,
   Culitho de NVIDIA, making that smooth move!

Re: Nvidia Unveils CuLitho: A “Breakthrough in Computational Lithography”

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Post by 29athrowaway »

copperx wrote: post #21
29athrowaway wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Technically, does not mean anything. 1) th is not used in Spanish 2) th would be likely hispanized as z 3) taken literally would sound culit-jo If you ignore that you are left with "culito" which is ass + diminutive = small ass

I'm a native Spanish speaker and 2 and 3 are completely false. 1 is true, but when pronouncing foreign words with th, the sound is invariably converted to a T. Thanos is "Tanos," Thermos is "termo," Ethernet is "Eternet," and so on.

The pronunciation of a word depends of a variety of factors, such as the path a loan word followed to get into the language.

There is no such thing as "when pronouncing foreign words with th, the sound is invariably converted to a T". Which sound are you referring to, the Greek "Θά" ('θa")? Or the English "th" which becomes the voiced dental fricative /ð/ or the voiceless dental fricative /θ/?

Does "ethernet" have a formally recognized translation by the RAE? No, it doesn't. You are being dishonest and making stuff up here.

A formal translation for "Thanos" doesn't exist in Spanish, what does exist is a translation for the given name Ἀθανάσιος ("Thanos" is a shortened version of the given name "Athanasius"), which is translated to Spanish as Atanasio, because it arrived to Spanish from Greek.

Another possible translation of Thanos may be the translations made by Marvel which I cannot care less about and do not carry any weight whatsoever.

And the fact that you are native Spanish speaker makes little difference here. How trustworthy is a native Spanish speaker? You will know it when you navigate the Spanish speaking Internet and find most of it are antivaxxers, flat earthers and people that believe "US Navy" is a given name ("Usnavy"). I know this because I have native Spanish proficiency as well.

Re: Nvidia Unveils CuLitho: A “Breakthrough in Computational Lithography”

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Post by mynameisvlad »

29athrowaway wrote: post #44
copperx wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a native Spanish speaker and 2 and 3 are completely false. 1 is true, but when pronouncing foreign words with th, the sound is invariably converted to a T. Thanos is "Tanos," Thermos is "termo," Ethernet is "Eternet," and so on.

The pronunciation of a word depends of a variety of factors, such as the path a loan word followed to get into the language. There is no such thing as "when pronouncing foreign words with th, the sound is invariably converted to a T". Which sound are you referring to, the Greek "Θά" ('θa")? Or the English "th" which becomes the voiced dental fricative /ð/ or the voiceless dental fricative /θ/? Does "ethernet" have a…

> And the fact that you are native Spanish speaker makes little difference here. How trustworthy is a native Spanish speaker? You will know it when you navigate the Spanish speaking Internet and find most of it are antivaxxers, flat earthers and people that believe "US Navy" is a given name ("Usnavy").

That has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of how something is pronounced in Spanish, which is ostensibly something that a native speaker of the language would certainly have experience with and who’s opinions should be listened to.

They shouldn’t be trusted as a source of information about vaccinations, the curvature of the earth, or the etymology of the US Navy but it’s also not expected that they would be experts in any of those topics.

There’s also plenty of English (and whatever other language, it’s not like the two are correlated in any way) speaking folks who believe all those things as well, but that doesn’t mean we instantly discount all people who speak English because of that.

Re: Nvidia Unveils CuLitho: A “Breakthrough in Computational Lithography”

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Post by astrange »

daqhris wrote: post #25
highwaylights wrote: post #8

It's a good thing that all these new rapidly improving generative models we've built aren't able to do something as crazy like use the exact same hardware we're running them on to design better hardware for themselves. nervously laughs in Schwarzenegger

Do you realize that now any human willing to expertiment with them is free to do. All it take is Internet access and an email address. Or a GPU-powered computer to ran them locally. My point is that we can not rightfully estimate who is using it or not. Some LLM models are publicly released after many private trials. Some people had access to GPT4 about 6 to 9 months before the official release. Not accounting primar…

> All that we are certain about is that their rate of improvement follows an exponential growth curve.

Are we?

Re: Nvidia Unveils CuLitho: A “Breakthrough in Computational Lithography”

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Post by copperx »

29athrowaway wrote: post #44
copperx wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a native Spanish speaker and 2 and 3 are completely false. 1 is true, but when pronouncing foreign words with th, the sound is invariably converted to a T. Thanos is "Tanos," Thermos is "termo," Ethernet is "Eternet," and so on.

The pronunciation of a word depends of a variety of factors, such as the path a loan word followed to get into the language. There is no such thing as "when pronouncing foreign words with th, the sound is invariably converted to a T". Which sound are you referring to, the Greek "Θά" ('θa")? Or the English "th" which becomes the voiced dental fricative /ð/ or the voiceless dental fricative /θ/? Does "ethernet" have a…

> And the fact that you are native Spanish speaker makes little difference here. How trustworthy is a native Spanish speaker? You will know it when you navigate the Spanish speaking Internet and find most of it are antivaxxers, flat earthers and people that believe "US Navy" is a given name ("Usnavy"). I know this because I have native Spanish proficiency as well.

Whoa. Even though I'm a Latino, I've never been offended or felt discriminated against while living in the USA these last 20 years. But your comment is something else. It's obvious that you haven't interacted with any Spanish-speaking scientist, programmer, or really anyone that didn't skip high school.

> Does "ethernet" have a formally recognized translation by the RAE? No, it doesn't. You are being dishonest and making stuff up here.

It doesn't, but that doesn't mean you're forbidden from using a word. Every Spanish-speaking IT professional pronounces ethernet as "eternet", although it is written as "ethernet", because we don't have a word for it in Spanish.

I'm mad. Not at you, but at the fact that your cowardly throwaway username hasn't been banned from HN yet.

Re: Nvidia Unveils CuLitho: A “Breakthrough in Computational Lithography”

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Post by exabrial »

Perhaps someone can explain to me, why aren't x-rays or another high frequency EMF used? Sure we can't bounce x-rays off mirrors like we can light (or can we?), but seems like a logical step we've never taken for some reason I'm ignorant to.

Re: Nvidia Unveils CuLitho: A “Breakthrough in Computational Lithography”

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Post by [deleted] »

mynameisvlad wrote: post #45
29athrowaway wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The pronunciation of a word depends of a variety of factors, such as the path a loan word followed to get into the language. There is no such thing as "when pronouncing foreign words with th, the sound is invariably converted to a T". Which sound are you referring to, the Greek "Θά" ('θa")? Or the English "th" which becomes the voiced dental fricative /ð/ or the voiceless dental fricative /θ/? Does "ethernet" have a…

> And the fact that you are native Spanish speaker makes little difference here. How trustworthy is a native Spanish speaker? You will know it when you navigate the Spanish speaking Internet and find most of it are antivaxxers, flat earthers and people that believe "US Navy" is a given name ("Usnavy"). That has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of how something is pronounced in Spanish, which is ostensibly some…

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Re: Nvidia Unveils CuLitho: A “Breakthrough in Computational Lithography”

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Post by gonzus »

copperx wrote: post #2

I'd bet my house over a donut that a Spanish-speaking employee at Nvidia came up with that name. As my friend put it: "hmm, CuLitho de envidia."

Reminds me of the pico editor -- pico means penis in some Spanish-speaking countries (it also means beak, FWTW). I remember contacting that project to let them know, I guess they thought it would be alright.
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