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Cryptocurrencies add nothing useful to society, says chip-maker Nvidia

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Re: Cryptocurrencies add nothing useful to society, says chip-maker Nvidia

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Why not divert that interest into the world of secure private and/or anonymous chat and networking protocols? The flow of information and ideas is more valuable than currency, and there is increasing pressure to legislate it out of existence.

The overlap between the two is significant.

Right - it should be the logical pivot for anyone previously operating in the cryptocurrency space (assuming they weren't just in it for perceived profit potential...)

Re: Cryptocurrencies add nothing useful to society, says chip-maker Nvidia

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His claim... "it collapsed, because it doesn’t bring anything useful for society" ...is incorrect. The total crypto market cap collapsed because of interest rate hikes. Nvidia's stock dropped 68%. Is that because it didn't bring anything useful for society? No. It was trading at a premium because of low rates.

> The total crypto market cap collapsed because of interest rate hikes. Let's take a deeper cut, why does something collapse when interest rates rise?

Money flows out of equities and into bonds which yield a higher more dependable return when interest rates are high enough.

The equities market was already running at artificially inflated values for some sectors (like technology), which means there isn't much growth potential (if everything is deemed to be already overpriced), and so the outflows were quite significant from those sectors, accentuating the inverse relationship between equities and interest rates.

Re: Cryptocurrencies add nothing useful to society, says chip-maker Nvidia

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I do not own any crypto myself. The grown-up opinion is of course to view all crypto ""investments"" with extreme skepticism, which is an absolutely sane and correct position. With that said, I like the idea of cryptocurrencies simply because they are punk as f*ck, and I'd like whatever leadership in charge to know that they do not have absolute power to run anyone else's life. Apart from magic internet money, I cann…

Why not divert that interest into the world of secure private and/or anonymous chat and networking protocols? The flow of information and ideas is more valuable than currency, and there is increasing pressure to legislate it out of existence.

Why divert when we could mirror

Re: Cryptocurrencies add nothing useful to society, says chip-maker Nvidia

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post #99

I do not own any crypto myself. The grown-up opinion is of course to view all crypto ""investments"" with extreme skepticism, which is an absolutely sane and correct position. With that said, I like the idea of cryptocurrencies simply because they are punk as f*ck, and I'd like whatever leadership in charge to know that they do not have absolute power to run anyone else's life. Apart from magic internet money, I cann…

Why not divert that interest into the world of secure private and/or anonymous chat and networking protocols? The flow of information and ideas is more valuable than currency, and there is increasing pressure to legislate it out of existence.

While I worked on cryptocurrencies and have changed to primarily focus on secure, private, anonymous network protocols (because the potential for speculative abuse is less, giving credit to your suggestion), I still would like to say that this is an example of whataboutism.

Money is power in a distinct way that freedom of information, in general, is not:

You don't need to believe in a (digital crypto) currency for it to hold value:

As long as someone else believes it, you can make them do things for that currency.

I believe this potency is what makes the scum of the Earth flock to cryptocurrencies.

Re: Cryptocurrencies add nothing useful to society, says chip-maker Nvidia

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post #95

I do not own any crypto myself. The grown-up opinion is of course to view all crypto ""investments"" with extreme skepticism, which is an absolutely sane and correct position. With that said, I like the idea of cryptocurrencies simply because they are punk as f*ck, and I'd like whatever leadership in charge to know that they do not have absolute power to run anyone else's life. Apart from magic internet money, I cann…

It is possible that there is no idea in the history of mankind less punk rock than cryptocurrency.

To me, they both seem to be about deliberate and organized defiance of social behavioral norms.

Re: Cryptocurrencies add nothing useful to society, says chip-maker Nvidia

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post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

His claim... "it collapsed, because it doesn’t bring anything useful for society" ...is incorrect. The total crypto market cap collapsed because of interest rate hikes. Nvidia's stock dropped 68%. Is that because it didn't bring anything useful for society? No. It was trading at a premium because of low rates.

> The total crypto market cap collapsed because of interest rate hikes. Let's take a deeper cut, why does something collapse when interest rates rise?

Money flow retracts if its cheaper to save than to borrow.

Re: Cryptocurrencies add nothing useful to society, says chip-maker Nvidia

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post #95

I do not own any crypto myself. The grown-up opinion is of course to view all crypto ""investments"" with extreme skepticism, which is an absolutely sane and correct position. With that said, I like the idea of cryptocurrencies simply because they are punk as f*ck, and I'd like whatever leadership in charge to know that they do not have absolute power to run anyone else's life. Apart from magic internet money, I cann…

It is possible that there is no idea in the history of mankind less punk rock than cryptocurrency.

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Re: Cryptocurrencies add nothing useful to society, says chip-maker Nvidia

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“Search isn’t a business!” Blockchain and Web3 ended up mostly being zero sum games. But that doesn’t mean it’s not capable of being so much more. Who remembers the silly and tags? The Web has come a long way. And personally, for all its faults, I find Web3 better than Web2 in terms of economics - rather than giant server farms and Big Tech monopolies, we have UniSwap and Aave Marketplace and Filecoin etc. The networ…

> The network is owned by the participants and no shareholder class to extract rents. Dumb question. But if the network is owned by the participants, then why do all the networks have a centralized authority managing them? The participants rarely have autonomy.

I mean, who owns Uniswap for instance? What can they do — start collegting the extra 0.3% fee? That’s about it. The people own the network, and they all rely on the same code.

Web3 protocols at their best are like that. By contrast, FTX and Binance are “crypto-adjacent”, they aren’t decentralized or onchain at all.

Re: Cryptocurrencies add nothing useful to society, says chip-maker Nvidia

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Nvidia should stick with what they know - producing AI hardware and AI pipelines. This is how Intel got disrupted - by trying too much beyond what they were fundamentally innovating in. There are many useful applications in cryptocurrency tech. We are only at the beginning stages of R&D in this space.
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