The Democrats have their own flaws certainly, but I’m having such a hard time finding a consistent ideology among conservatives. Free speech absolutism, mixed with parent choice, no choice for women, censorship for some kinds of speech, anti-regulation limited government but strong regulation of tech products. I just can’t square any of this.
Utah is first US state to limit teen social media access
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Yes, and a 13 year old should absolutely not use any of those services. Discord in particular has become known as “groomercord” for it’s open pedophilia.
What about YouTube? Lots of educational material there. Fits all of the points.
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I'm sure many of us wouldn't have been a programmer if we hadn't had access to SO/Github around 17.
I'm sure our parents would have all let us sign up for a programming site. This bill still allows for that.
I don’t believe they even allow under-13 today due to COPA laws.
Of course this focus on the age 13 is completely missing the point that the actual age gate is 17.
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Lmao imagine Utah becoming the most mentally healthy region on earth, suicide rates plummeting, productivity up 300%, people spending time with parents and grandparents again? record sign ups in sports clubs, record birth rates etc. Be careful what you wish for ;-)
If the state has total control over every aspect of their citizens' lives they can model the population into any perfect utopia they desire. I'd still not like to live in that world.
It's not about every aspect of life but a few key norms. I see this predatory social media like gambling if not worse, and gambling is regulated in most places
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I haven't read the bills yet but according to the article it applies to children under 18. 17-year-old me would have considered this draconian bullsh*t, for the same reasons I would now. (So does dad me, incidentally. My kid's messages have always been her business, not mine.)
I'm sure many of us wouldn't have been a programmer if we hadn't had access to SO/Github around 17.
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I'm sure many of us wouldn't have been a programmer if we hadn't had access to SO/Github around 17.
I'm sure our parents would have all let us sign up for a programming site. This bill still allows for that.
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#147The main bill is a possibly a bit overreaching but I’m fully in favour of this part. There’s a huge problem where I live with kids just not going to school and many of those same kids are staying up until 1am each night doom scrolling or watching YouTube.
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Isn't this the opposite though? They're not telling people how to live their lives. They're taking away the power Facebook has over many people's lives so people might enjoy their lives in more social and healthy ways again.
"any legislation restricting behavior actually frees people to do what they always wanted (the government knows best what that is) but just couldn't because of all these other possibilities misguiding them"