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Gamey me I can handle. But parasites? Count me out.
“Regular” pork has parasites too, that’s why you wanna cook it to the “safe” temperature.
Confidently incorrect!
Researchers are trying to mitigate the spread of wild pigs in Canada
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Re: Researchers are trying to mitigate the spread of wild pigs in Canada
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> Maybe the middle ground is to make it a military privilege to hunt feral hogs where you need to be a reservist, and if you join you get a lifetime rural open carry and hunting permit. I can't make out whether you're in the US or Canada, but where I live (Washington State) if you're out in the sticks, not only can you open carry but if you're hiking, fishing, hunting, etc. you can have a concealed weapon without a p…
There’s no concealed carry in Canada. In fact handgun acquisition has been banned last year. Hunting requires a license and then additional per species license. Except for species like wolves and coyotes, I think.
https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/authorization-carry
There is, but it's not very common at all, and not in the sense that you can just grab a gun and wander wherever you want.
I've always wondered if they process the application without any of the work check boxes checked. I assume the answer is "no".
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A cobalt source for the home ? That's plainly nuts. In Europe they dealt very successfully with trichinosis by inspecting pig carcasses. But I have no idea if you can take a muscle sample from a porker you shot yourself to your local large-animal veterinarian to see if it's trichinotic. (In rural areas they just might that service - back then in my home village we had that pharmacist who was a devoted mushroom hunter…
Obviously food irradiation is done at specialized processing facilities where hunters would send their kills, not at home. Here's a clue for you: it's already the case that most hunters don't process their own meat. > That's plainly nuts. You're the one who said it, so right back at you buddy. Stop pulling absurdities out of your ass and attributing them to other people to have something to disagree with.
Not sure if your average family-owned deer processor would want a gamma source with all the required safeguards in their facility. And they'd have to get it past the customers too, there's going to be resistance with at least some of them.
A friend from school, his parents owned a butcher shop where they killed and butchered their own hogs (not beef, beef would have been to large for the facility). If anyone had asked him what he wanted - irradiation or inspection plus proper treatment of the meat (boil, fry or hot-smoke) the reply would have been unequivocal and loud.
Re: Researchers are trying to mitigate the spread of wild pigs in Canada
#144The solution is to eat them. It's humane and it's free range pork. Let rural butchers test and certify the meat and sell it to local restaurants as a super premium product, then leverage the now all electronic game tag system for supply chain management. The only thing standing in the way of solving the feral pig problem is the attitudes of the urban governing class toward people capable of hunting and our histrionic…
> The solution is to eat them. To quote a certain president: sounds good, doesn't work. Over here in Poland despite having open season for boars all year round and eliminating 185k specimens due to ASF a few years ago there are still a lot of them. The meat is great - leaner than pork and gamey, but it's also expensive - 2-4x more than pork. I mean, they disrupt ecosystems with their omnivoracity and propensity to mu…
We ate almost all large animals on the planet to extinction with just stone tools. If we wanted to wipe the pigs out it can definitely be done with automatic rifles.
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#145CBC has an article [1] with more pictures of the pigs themselves, tusks and all, as well as their typical weight. Over 300 pounds! Largest recorded was 640 lbs. They remind me more of wild zebras than friendly farm oinkers. [1] https://www.cbc.ca/kidsnews/post/why-canadas-super-pigs-migh...
Pigloos!!!
Do we have to wipe them out? Just because they’re surviving our extinction event doesn’t mean they’re evil
Re: Researchers are trying to mitigate the spread of wild pigs in Canada
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I'm a gun owner and support controlled hunting both for needed food for some people and population control when done properly. But beware perverse incentives and proper management. There have been plenty of articles and research about use of incentives and industry for dealing with invasive species, not just the feral pig problem but many others (nutria and lionfish for example [0]). And states that have made hunting…
This is nonsense. No farmer or rancher in Texas wants feral hogs, and no one in Texas tries to promote feral hog populations. We have something like 4 million feral hogs. The problem is that avid 1 hunter can take out 20-30 in one night, but they don't go out to do it every night, and there's not enough feral hog hunters to make a dent. Feral hogs cause enormous amounts of damage, and there's no hope of hunting or tr…
If I’m a hog farmer and I can make 200 smeckles for a standard hog or get paid 400 smeckles for each “feral hog” I hand over then logically I’ll just start breeding the feral ones instead.
The market finds the most profitable solution, not necessarily the best solution.
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#147Who would've thought that breeding pigs to both reproduce and grow to maturity faster could lead to a massive invasive species issue that has seemingly no solution? Maybe we shouldn't be breeding animals to eat - but that's just me.
Meat is delicious and nutritious. I have no desire to move to a vitamin powder and soy extract based diet.
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#148Siberian tigers are proficient predators of wild boars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_boar >>A single tiger can systematically destroy an entire sounder by preying on its members one by one, before moving on to another sounder. Siberian tigers are endangered due to poachers seeking to meet the demand for tiger body parts in traditional Chinese medicine, and could be well protected by Canadian conservation author…
I mean I absolutely want tigers to be set loose in the countryside but I feel like that’s going to then end in people shooting tigers out of helicopters with a machine gun.
If people are willing to move on from the idea that we have to try and keep animals exactly where they were and preserve habitats (that we then wipe out) then we could probably save species like that. Tigers would do great in a nice forest full of pigs.
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#149pigs are arguably smarter than dogs and as many can attest, these pigs will avoid traps and hunters rather adeptly - this is a situation where we need to repopulate wolves - hobby hunting will never outpace their population growth, we need full-time allies
Wolves won't hunt 300lb hogs.
They said that about chimps but then those chimps figured out you could chase them off a cliff and then eat them at the bottom.
Give them a chance and they’ll adapt. It’s either kill hogs or they starve.
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> The meat is great - leaner than pork and gamey, but it's also expensive - 2-4x more than pork. Is it actually wild boar? We have butchers and farms selling “wild boar” products in Canada, but it’s actually farmed from descendants of recent “adoptions” of wild specimens. It’s wild in terms of genetics; which might still be better; but isn’t accomplishing much in terms of culling.
> Is it actually wild boar? There isn't much of a market for farmed boar, because it's still expensive. We have a strong hunting lobby (many members of parliament are active hunters) so there's actually more bureaucracy with maintaining a farm of them than hunting. Farms probably exist(never heard of any), but it's not a particularly profitable business. Becoming a hunter is actually one of the two most popular ways…
Ah gotcha. In Canada, it's basically prohibited to let game meat enter commercial trade. Still happens informally, but nobody is going to be able to walk into a butcher and buy it.