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Any type of hormonal contraceptive may increase risk of breast cancer

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Re: Any type of hormonal contraceptive may increase risk of breast cancer

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Post by _cenw »

pfannkuchen wrote: post #24
lazyasciiart wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow. I'd probably break up with a guy who "asked me to get off contraceptives". If you want to be responsible about preventing pregnancy, that's fantastic. If you feel like that's any more than an input to her decision of whether to be on it, that's a pretty fundamental overreach.

Isn’t any “request” an input only? As opposed to a “command”.

It very much depends on context where request end and coersion starts. I'd be uncomfortable handing control over contraception use over to someone I've known for not so long. Just like a lot of guys use condoms because they don't trust the word of a women when she's saying she's on contraceptives.

Re: Any type of hormonal contraceptive may increase risk of breast cancer

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Post by projectazorian »

pfannkuchen wrote: post #24
lazyasciiart wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow. I'd probably break up with a guy who "asked me to get off contraceptives". If you want to be responsible about preventing pregnancy, that's fantastic. If you feel like that's any more than an input to her decision of whether to be on it, that's a pretty fundamental overreach.

Isn’t any “request” an input only? As opposed to a “command”.

In places like the US where women’s reproductive rights are highly contested, many women don’t take well to men making unsolicited requests about their birth control decisions. Perhaps this isn’t the case everywhere, but this site has a very US-heavy readership so it seems reasonable to have that context be the default.

Re: Any type of hormonal contraceptive may increase risk of breast cancer

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Post by warent »

blindriver wrote: post #21
lazyasciiart wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow. I'd probably break up with a guy who "asked me to get off contraceptives". If you want to be responsible about preventing pregnancy, that's fantastic. If you feel like that's any more than an input to her decision of whether to be on it, that's a pretty fundamental overreach.

Meh. It's not particularly controversial so you're being overly dramatic. I didn't force anyone, we had an adult conversation about it and all my gfs were on the same page. If any one of my gfs wanted to stay on contraceptives in the first place, then great, I would still do the exact same thing to avoid getting her pregnant in case she missed a day, etc. My wife wasn't on contraceptives in the first place so it was…

Communication is a two way road. When you're talking about a sensitive topic and people don't know the context of you who are, don't be surprised when you are interpreted in a negative light.

Based on your schoolyard dismissiveness here, it looks like they're spot on and you don't actually care much for adult conversations. You can dismiss that all you want but when people view us negatively in situations like this, it only hurts ourselves, so it's usually our responsibility to communicate better

Re: Any type of hormonal contraceptive may increase risk of breast cancer

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Post by emodendroket »

justinator wrote: post #17

Hopefully soon, doctors that prescribe birth control for things unrelated to birth control will now stop doing that as that's a reasonably bad thing to do (IMHO IANAD)

Is there some other solution for the problems it solves?

Re: Any type of hormonal contraceptive may increase risk of breast cancer

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Post by thfuran »

afavour wrote: post #32
thfuran wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>it is a choice they make themselves for their own body But not a choice made in a vacuum. It's a choice made in the context of their relationship.

Not entirely, no. Women take birth control for a number of reasons unrelated to pregnancy: https://www.webmd.com/sex/birth-control/ss/slideshow-birth-c... The “context of a relationship” part is when a couple decide to cease birth control in order to have a child together. The OP is talking about still using birth control, just different birth control that he would prefer she use over the alternatives. Ultimately tha…

>Women take birth control for a number of reasons unrelated to pregnancy

Yes, but don't forget about the elephant in the room: There are a lot of women on birth control who wouldn't be if they weren't trying to avoid pregnancy.

>Ultimately that should be her choice.

Were you under the impression that he was physically preventing his girlfriends from taking birth control?

Re: Any type of hormonal contraceptive may increase risk of breast cancer

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Post by fsckboy »

blindriver wrote: post #21
lazyasciiart wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow. I'd probably break up with a guy who "asked me to get off contraceptives". If you want to be responsible about preventing pregnancy, that's fantastic. If you feel like that's any more than an input to her decision of whether to be on it, that's a pretty fundamental overreach.

Meh. It's not particularly controversial so you're being overly dramatic. I didn't force anyone, we had an adult conversation about it and all my gfs were on the same page. If any one of my gfs wanted to stay on contraceptives in the first place, then great, I would still do the exact same thing to avoid getting her pregnant in case she missed a day, etc. My wife wasn't on contraceptives in the first place so it was…

> Meh. It's not particularly controversial so you're being overly dramatic.

you're denying you have any unconscious motivation to "be controlling," as you again display in your response to GP's reasonable personal opinion.

Re: Any type of hormonal contraceptive may increase risk of breast cancer

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Post by AiaAidan »

fnordpiglet wrote: post #7

After I had the kids I wanted, I got a vasectomy. It’s a painless and quick and largely reversible procedure with no side effects and offers 100% contraception. If you care about your partner and are “done,” I highly recommend it.

Thanks for sharing your positive experience - it's great to hear that the procedure was painless and quick, and has given you and your partner a reliable form of contraception. More important, having a close person in your life whom you can trust is truly a life jackpot! In the current "epidemic of loneliness," it's more important than ever to have strong personal connections.

Re: Any type of hormonal contraceptive may increase risk of breast cancer

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Post by throwntoday »

practice9 wrote: post #20
warent wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I'm being overly generous, it seems like it may be possible for this kind of thing to be more of a request out of support/concern for a loved one's health, rather than one of control or knowing better than a woman. It has been my understanding that many men don't consider such things. My lady has had horrendous experiences with hormonal contraceptives. Based on what we know of it, if she ever expressed wanting…

> Maybe it's all about context, I'm not sure +100 For everyone the circumstances and relationship dynamics are different. And it's kind of disheartening to read a well-intentioned comment, see people assuming their own completely different context and then getting slightly aggressive about it.

Go to any relationship subreddit and you'll see countless comments where the slightest misstep is treated as some indellible sin. It's terrifying how quickly these people would forsake a loved one. So many unbelievably jaded and cynical people influencing the thoughts of others.
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