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Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Post by lwhi »

gambiting wrote: post #71
ddalex wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you for real ? I mean, pick better examples if you want to poke something, since: Search for "micropython html parser" gets you https://pypi.org/project/micropython-html.parser/ as the first result with the quote: "This is a module ported from CPython standard library to be compatible with MicroPython interpreter."

Not for me. That website isn't anywhere on the first page of results.

I see exactly the same.

Google provides exactly what you're looking for ..

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Post by sourcecodeplz »

nperez wrote: post #56
culopatin wrote: post #26

I feel like I’m missing out on something but other than to summarize text or fill pointless and lazy homework assignments I don’t have much of a use of gpt search. I think I have a trust issue with it and I rather get the raw result and process it myself than to believe that what this model “understood” is right. Anyone else feels this way?

I find it useful in Edge where it's aware of the tab contents. It's nice to be able to ask it to summarize a long article, or find Reddit comments about it and summarize those. I think it uses Bing's search index because it does not seem to be aware of my personal data on my tabs

I thought the same but it is actually able to interpret URLs that are not indexed by Bing. It doesn't work all the time though, don't know why.

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Post by manfre »

xnx wrote: post #110
tines wrote: post #40

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I just performed that search in Google and the top two results are links to PyPI and Snyk packages for micropython-html.parser. The third result is a link to python.org documentation for html.parser (not micropython). Bing returns the result for PyPI and the one for the non-micropython python.org result. I don't see a big difference here (except maybe me learning about Snyk through google and not Bing?).

I also get the same result when logged-in and incognito. Others in the thread seem to get them also.

Google knows it's you if you did all of that from the same computer.

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Post by jvolkman »

thfuran wrote: post #96
at_a_remove wrote: post #61

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Amen. Buried, unknown to most, Google used to have a similar AROUND(n) syntax. No idea if it still is respected. Google seems to have refocused around returning any result out of a set of popular links rather than deep dives. It feels like I must quote every term I enter now.

And quoting terms doesn't even force them to be present anymore.

I don't think this is true, although the quoted terms may not be readily visible. Google talked about it as late as last year: https://blog.google/products/search/how-were-improving-searc...

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Post by AviationAtom »

jjoonathan wrote: post #95
AviationAtom wrote: post #33

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For those old enough to remember, it's exactly the reason why Google took Yahoo's place back when.

The moment Google removed the yellow highlight on ads, their fate was sealed. They lived long enough to become the villain.

I do believe I just saw an open letter from some Google staff to the CEO reiterating the need to uphold their "do no evil" model.

I can't imagine what it's like for the original employees to watch the company become what it has.

All the things that made Google so appealing, and gain market share, seem to have faded. It's a bit sad, to be honest. I remember being so excited to become a Gmail beta tester, back in the day.

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Post by _hypx »

AviationAtom wrote: post #33
gambiting wrote: post #28

Maybe because Google is actual trash and it went from being the best search engine to being an SEO-infested desert of a search, where your query is interpreted however they want not how you want. Latest example from today - search for "micropython html parser" - 100% of results are about normal python not micropython, with the first 4 results being for generic paid programming courses. It's completely useless as a se…

For those old enough to remember, it's exactly the reason why Google took Yahoo's place back when.

But what can replace Google? Is there another search engine with stunningly relevant results like the early days of Google?

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Post by spoiler »

ThePhysicist wrote: post #89

This might be a trope here, but recently I noticed that the quality of search results has degraded quite a bit for me. When I e.g. search for Golang-related content (often I want just the official docs of a module like net/http) I get all these developer-focused, SEO-optimized blogs that are kind of helpful but often not, and I have to scroll all the way down to get the official docs. I really wonder if that has to d…

I know what you mean, and it's kinda annoying. I often click the blog links knowing I'll probably be disappointed when I see they're certain sites. Personally hosted blogs tend to be a bit better.

I wish they added some kind of categorised search. So you can add "+documentation" or "+blog" to at least narrow it down if you know what you're looking for but can't remember the URL

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Post by stevepike »

gambiting wrote: post #28

Maybe because Google is actual trash and it went from being the best search engine to being an SEO-infested desert of a search, where your query is interpreted however they want not how you want. Latest example from today - search for "micropython html parser" - 100% of results are about normal python not micropython, with the first 4 results being for generic paid programming courses. It's completely useless as a se…

I don't know why people are picking on your specific search. Try turning off your ad blocker and searching for "zoom download".

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Post by kgen »

throw10920 wrote: post #85
sufficer wrote: post #79

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Maybe you got some Spyware or something interfering with Google queries

Um, no. Google "bubbles" their search results, meaning that they customize them based on their profile of you. This is not new - it's been implemented and known publicly for years .

Right, and what the person above is saying is that spyware/bad extensions can be making random searches which muddy your profile's search data
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