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Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Post by gtm1260 »

gambiting wrote: post #28

Maybe because Google is actual trash and it went from being the best search engine to being an SEO-infested desert of a search, where your query is interpreted however they want not how you want. Latest example from today - search for "micropython html parser" - 100% of results are about normal python not micropython, with the first 4 results being for generic paid programming courses. It's completely useless as a se…

My mental model has totally shifted to the point where even like dealing with stack overflow feels like a pain compared to just asking gpt-4.

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Post by thfuran »

taytus wrote: post #51
gambiting wrote: post #28

Maybe because Google is actual trash and it went from being the best search engine to being an SEO-infested desert of a search, where your query is interpreted however they want not how you want. Latest example from today - search for "micropython html parser" - 100% of results are about normal python not micropython, with the first 4 results being for generic paid programming courses. It's completely useless as a se…

I know this might be controversial but I believe SEO ruined search.

Ads have been ruining the internet since back when it was a hellscape of popups.

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Post by adriancr »

gambiting wrote: post #71
ddalex wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you for real ? I mean, pick better examples if you want to poke something, since: Search for "micropython html parser" gets you https://pypi.org/project/micropython-html.parser/ as the first result with the quote: "This is a module ported from CPython standard library to be compatible with MicroPython interpreter."

Not for me. That website isn't anywhere on the first page of results.

Try ublock origin / searching without account then, I'm getting the same result as everyone else

The ads are personalised to you though

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Post by jjoonathan »

AviationAtom wrote: post #33
gambiting wrote: post #28

Maybe because Google is actual trash and it went from being the best search engine to being an SEO-infested desert of a search, where your query is interpreted however they want not how you want. Latest example from today - search for "micropython html parser" - 100% of results are about normal python not micropython, with the first 4 results being for generic paid programming courses. It's completely useless as a se…

For those old enough to remember, it's exactly the reason why Google took Yahoo's place back when.

The moment Google removed the yellow highlight on ads, their fate was sealed. They lived long enough to become the villain.

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Post by thfuran »

at_a_remove wrote: post #61
LeoPanthera wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's unfair to altavista. Altavista never got evil, they just became irrelevant. (And even when they were irrelevant, they still had a search syntax that I miss. You could search for things like term_a NEAR term_b.)

Amen. Buried, unknown to most, Google used to have a similar AROUND(n) syntax. No idea if it still is respected. Google seems to have refocused around returning any result out of a set of popular links rather than deep dives. It feels like I must quote every term I enter now.

And quoting terms doesn't even force them to be present anymore.

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Post by LeoPanthera »

thfuran wrote: post #96
at_a_remove wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amen. Buried, unknown to most, Google used to have a similar AROUND(n) syntax. No idea if it still is respected. Google seems to have refocused around returning any result out of a set of popular links rather than deep dives. It feels like I must quote every term I enter now.

And quoting terms doesn't even force them to be present anymore.

Citation needed? Because it does for me.

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Post by jmartrican »

csdvrx wrote: post #36
jmartrican wrote: post #25

I went right back to Google. It just had better results.

Is It Possible to Learn This Power? Because google is 99% spam for me

lol. I noticed it depends on what I search for. I typically search for programming issues. Google tends to have the correct Stack Overflow answer up at the top. But I agree a bunch of ads otherwise.

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Post by gambiting »

adriancr wrote: post #94
gambiting wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not for me. That website isn't anywhere on the first page of results.

Try ublock origin / searching without account then, I'm getting the same result as everyone else The ads are personalised to you though

Yeah I just vpn'ed to my machine at work and I'm getting results about micropyhton too. But on my personal machine it absolutely thinks I'm interested in buying some generic programming courses and nothing about micropython.

Re: OpenAI tech gives Microsoft's Bing a boost in search battle with Google

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Post by jjoonathan »

wslh wrote: post #72
gambiting wrote: post #28

Maybe because Google is actual trash and it went from being the best search engine to being an SEO-infested desert of a search, where your query is interpreted however they want not how you want. Latest example from today - search for "micropython html parser" - 100% of results are about normal python not micropython, with the first 4 results being for generic paid programming courses. It's completely useless as a se…

Please Sergey and Larry return and apply your original paper! Just update it a bit.

They knew what they were doing. They always knew.

> The goals of the advertising business model do not always correspond to providing quality search to users.

- Sergey Brin and Lawrence Page, The Anatomy of a Large-Scale Hypertextual Web Search Engine

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