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Anti-porn bills could force device makers to censor sexual material

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Fuck these prudes. It's time to stop accepting the demonization of sex by religious extremists. If we don't fight for our rights we forfeit them.

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for all people replying. I' m referring to this https://fightthenewdrug.org/ (+some peer reviewed studies), not to some religion. Porn is literally bad, if somebody want to jerk off, better use imagination

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for all people replying. I' m referring to this https://fightthenewdrug.org/ (+some peer reviewed studies), not to some religion. Porn is literally bad, if somebody want to jerk off, better use imagination

Also I'm not supporting on-device blocking, it's against privacy and may be used as a precedent to block other stuff, I'm just saying porn is bad and try to minimize it's consumption (ideally to 0)

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> Modern porn isn't like your grandpa's playboy magazines I'm sure there was very extreme porn when grandpa was reading his magazines. Maybe access to it is easier today, but I'm sure humans have been into extreme sexual activities for a veeeeeeery long time.

Yep, accessibility is my concern. Think about the most vile, extreme porn you've seen. Now multiply that vileness by 10. That content is just as easy to access (via the Internet) as some innocent nude selfie. Again, I think adults should be able to watch what they want. The concern is for the children who are given unrestricted access to the Internet from a young age.

> The concern is for the children who are given unrestricted access to the Internet from a young age

Kinda agree - but for me that's up to the parents. Control your kids devices, restrict them, educate them etc.

Else, how do you want to control this? Mandatory identification on the whole internet? No thanks...

I've seen a lot of things as a teenager which I shouldn't have seen (gore videos of mexican cartels, ISIS etc.), and I'm sure that this has done some mental damage, even though I can't exactly pinpoint what kind. But still, if the alternative is total bureaucratic control over the whole internet with my personal ID being identified everywhere, just to save some uncontrolled kids from watching things they shouldn't...I don't know.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_Infocal...

EDIT: to clarify, i do agree that kids should be protected from harmful content. just don't think that ID checks or scanning my own data are a net positive.

Re: Anti-porn bills could force device makers to censor sexual material

#104

Fuck these prudes. It's time to stop accepting the demonization of sex by religious extremists. If we don't fight for our rights we forfeit them.

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So you'd eliminate general purpose computing to get rid of it?

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> Modern porn isn't like your grandpa's playboy magazines I'm sure there was very extreme porn when grandpa was reading his magazines. Maybe access to it is easier today, but I'm sure humans have been into extreme sexual activities for a veeeeeeery long time.

Yep, accessibility is my concern. Think about the most vile, extreme porn you've seen. Now multiply that vileness by 10. That content is just as easy to access (via the Internet) as some innocent nude selfie. Again, I think adults should be able to watch what they want. The concern is for the children who are given unrestricted access to the Internet from a young age.

We need to stop asking the government to parent our children. This is the chief problem. That idea has been mainstreamed such that the assumption is "there ought to be a law" for everything.

Once upon a time, when conservatism was a set of principles and not a set of rants, it was conservatives that stood for limiting government's reach into private concerns. Those values have largely flown out the window to the point where the "two sides" are simply arguing over what to interfere in.

At a global level, human societies have gone through this before. The rash of attaching fig leaves to statuary, for example. The last decade has seen an up-tick of that kind of activity as well.

What happens when you tear down religion and the family unit as moral centers in society? Society replaces them with government... which is drastically worse. Governmental agencies have no interest in teaching that they don't have the responsibility. Their existence depends on growing their authority. There's a conflict of interest.

This is not a slippery slope argument either, it's the consequences of some ideas winning mind share (government as moral authority, morality as old-fashioned...).

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I'm a woman. I watch porn. I've made porn (well, I've posted nudes online.) I definitely don't think it's twisted the way I see women (or, like, myself.) I'm pretty done with men deciding what's in my best interest though.

What about the predatory nature of the industry ? 18 year olds being hunted down to "act" in these pieces, mostly by older men who are just using these women for their own pleasure and financial benefits. Is this okay ?

Average age is closer to early 20s. Look at any agency and their roster…

Re: Anti-porn bills could force device makers to censor sexual material

#107

Fuck these prudes. It's time to stop accepting the demonization of sex by religious extremists. If we don't fight for our rights we forfeit them.

We need a middle ground. Sex is not equal to porn either. No parent wants their child accessing porn but locking devices is the wrong step. ISPs should do a better job at completely blocking porn access. It's poorly implemented in the UK.

What evidence do you have for that assertion?

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Porn has its fair share of issues with human trafficking, exploitation etc. But to label all porn as not good is not correct either in my opinion. If, as an example, you find a porn account of a consentual couple who uploads videos on their own terms - why would that be bad?

It could be bad in terms of the outcomes for consumers even if it's produced ethically. Imagine all junk food and sugary soda was produced with sustainable farming and renewable energy. It could still be the case that it leads to worse health outcomes for the population, which seems like grounds for regulation to me. I don't really have a position on this, but it seems easy to imagine how someone could.

> It could still be the case that it leads to worse health outcomes for the population, which seems like grounds for regulation to me.

I don't see how that would be grounds for regulation, though. Grounds for education, perhaps.

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for all people replying. I' m referring to this https://fightthenewdrug.org/ (+some peer reviewed studies), not to some religion. Porn is literally bad, if somebody want to jerk off, better use imagination

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Why Idaho? I thought Texas was the big gun state.

Idaho just legalized execution by firing squad and are considering repealing their anti-militia law. Texas gets a lot of attention because of its size, but Idaho is maybe the outright craziest state almost completely controlled at the state government level by Christian/Mormon theocratic fascists.

This. Of all of the scary states, Idaho is perhaps the scariest.
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