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Anti-porn bills could force device makers to censor sexual material

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Re: Anti-porn bills could force device makers to censor sexual material

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Post by zer00eyz »

inDigiNeous wrote: post #43
sterlind wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a woman. I watch porn. I've made porn (well, I've posted nudes online.) I definitely don't think it's twisted the way I see women (or, like, myself.) I'm pretty done with men deciding what's in my best interest though.

What about the predatory nature of the industry ? 18 year olds being hunted down to "act" in these pieces, mostly by older men who are just using these women for their own pleasure and financial benefits. Is this okay ?

Is this okay?

No

But neither is chocolate, coffee, minerals mined in Africa, Gulf oil. You know child labor, slavery, exploitation.

We can talk about saving the 18 year old who should know better after we spend the day slapping cell phones and mocha caps out of people hands in front of Starbucks.

Then we can try to save 18 year olds, Im fairly sure that a good number of them are going to tell us to fuck off were poor with their only fans money.

Re: Anti-porn bills could force device makers to censor sexual material

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Post by brabel »

inDigiNeous wrote: post #53
albertopv wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"We give 5 year olds smartphones" Well, maybe don't do it? Maybe not until they are 12yo or something like that? My feeling is many parents don't want to parent at all and so they delegate to smartphone, tablets and TVs. Parents should go back to be more...parents. We don't have an ipad exactly because otherwise my 6yo would like to play with it (her friends have one) instead of going out and play outside. In my opin…

Well, I dont do that. But what are you going to do about the majority of people doing this ? And children looking at their phones. I've heard of tales of second graders looking at porn together while on recess, that is the world we now live in. There should be some good defaults. I agree with you totally, it makes no sense to give under 10 year olds smart phones.

> But what are you going to do about the majority of people doing this ?

What the hell, why do you care what other parents do or not do?? How about we let them make their own choices?! Geez, what kind of authoritarian mindset is this kind of argument coming from?

Re: Anti-porn bills could force device makers to censor sexual material

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Post by kergonath »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #58
moi2388 wrote: post #29

The USA is so f*cking retarded. Sure, take all the drugs and pills you want. Sure, but guns. Sure, watch all the death and violence you want. But don’t you dare look at a nipple!

They somehow manage to export that prudishness to other countries too.

And the porn as well…

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Post by sacnoradhq »

Moldoteck wrote: post #24
throwawaaarrgh wrote: post #14

Fuck these prudes. It's time to stop accepting the demonization of sex by religious extremists. If we don't fight for our rights we forfeit them.

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Dogmatic, monochromatic view that is obviously wrong.

Re: Anti-porn bills could force device makers to censor sexual material

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Post by sterlind »

inDigiNeous wrote: post #43
sterlind wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a woman. I watch porn. I've made porn (well, I've posted nudes online.) I definitely don't think it's twisted the way I see women (or, like, myself.) I'm pretty done with men deciding what's in my best interest though.

What about the predatory nature of the industry ? 18 year olds being hunted down to "act" in these pieces, mostly by older men who are just using these women for their own pleasure and financial benefits. Is this okay ?

People have agency. Set an age of majority and treat those above it like adults. It's a hell of a lot better than infantilizing women and chauvinistically "protecting" us from exploitation.

I feel like I'm finally starting to understand how burqas took off. This kind of moral panic. Keeping us safe from the lecherous eyes of men.

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Post by lamacase »

4ggr0 wrote: post #35
Moldoteck wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Porn has its fair share of issues with human trafficking, exploitation etc. But to label all porn as not good is not correct either in my opinion. If, as an example, you find a porn account of a consentual couple who uploads videos on their own terms - why would that be bad?

It could be bad in terms of the outcomes for consumers even if it's produced ethically.

Imagine all junk food and sugary soda was produced with sustainable farming and renewable energy. It could still be the case that it leads to worse health outcomes for the population, which seems like grounds for regulation to me.

I don't really have a position on this, but it seems easy to imagine how someone could.

Re: Anti-porn bills could force device makers to censor sexual material

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Post by zer00eyz »

First amendment issues aside. Your feelings about porn aside.

How many women are selling images of themselves on onlyfans for a living? What is that economic impact to a majority female population. The only number I could find is a million people create content on there.

Re: Anti-porn bills could force device makers to censor sexual material

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Post by sacnoradhq »

inDigiNeous wrote: post #20

Well, censoring porn is one of the things I would happy to be censoring. Although this leads down a steep road easily to censor other content also, yet for a long time I have wondered why is it so easy to find porn, and why is nobody doing anything about it ? Porn is probably one of the major addictive behavioural and thought changing things in this world currently. It takes under 3 seconds to find porn if you want i…

Mind your own business. It's not your place to decide what other people watch or do.

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Post by kergonath »

inDigiNeous wrote: post #20

Well, censoring porn is one of the things I would happy to be censoring. Although this leads down a steep road easily to censor other content also, yet for a long time I have wondered why is it so easy to find porn, and why is nobody doing anything about it ? Porn is probably one of the major addictive behavioural and thought changing things in this world currently. It takes under 3 seconds to find porn if you want i…

> Although this leads down a steep road easily to censor other content also, yet for a long time I have wondered why is it so easy to find porn, and why is nobody doing anything about it ?

Why should we do anything about it? I’ve never seen a cogent argument. It always boils down to “I don’t like it” and “but the children”. Other people don’t have to care if I like something, and the children would benefit much more from true sex education, so that they get the knowledge they need from more valid sources than entertainers. Same as with abortion, really. If you don’t like it, then prepare your children to make enlightened choices and avoid problematic behaviour.

> It can be violent, disturbing, abusive to the people involved and can cause mass scale feelings of not being enough, not being good enough to compared to the people showing you how "sex" should be had.

Then we need to prosecute instances of actual abuse and exploitation. But that would mean actually listening to victims (including, yikes!, women). Exactly like we do with violent content: who cares if you post yourself shooting your AR-15 on YouTube? But shooting your school mates is crossing a line. Why are we so mentally defective as soon as sex is involved?

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