Well, loving "tldr"[1] and smashing the tab key for my autocompletes that Copilot CLI thing kind of sounds like another level of laziness and less Googling.
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The domain name on that authorization prompt was more than enough to get me to decline. I wouldn't have hesitated at all if it were at next.github.com.
Totally get it. I’ve passed feedback on to the team so (hopefully) the CLI app will be be clearly from GitHub soon (we need to transfer it to the regular GitHub org and then there hopefully won’t be any confusion). GitHub Next exists in a different org from GitHub proper for lots of reasons, but we should definitely make it more clear that those experiments are still from GitHub.
Doing it under a liberated domain under GitHub.com sounds like it would work (still a separate org but it’s a signal that this is from main GitHub)
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Concern over this is the #1 reason I have not yet tried to use Copilot. For my hobby projects I don't care enough to pay for it. And if it's phoning home proprietary code, I can't allow that to happen.
It’s worth it even for hobby projects, imo. It reduces the time spent on mundane tasks and allows you to think at a higher level and just move faster. Maybe you achieve a level of zen from implementing utility level code, similar to how some people might still write assembly code, but otherwise it’s a valuable tool/skill to learn. Tangentially, I think there’s some fear associated with adopting AI tools, perhaps beca…
Can you describe how you use it? I struggle to imagine how it would even be done. Ie do you write prompts? Just code as normal but frequently hit a "copilot" button? etc
Though i do wonder if it'll improve my ability to read code. PRs are a pain because i find it easier to write than read. I'd pay for Copilot in a heartbeat if it was good at spotting PR errors/etc.
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#215Not very impressed with either Copilot or ChatGPT for programming purposes. I'm sure it will be interesting for some people, but whenever I really feel like I could benefit from an intelligent AI, it usually falls flat. Most commonly, it will just generate calls that don't exist, and if you try to get it to implement them, it will write bullshit. Now the thing is, maybe it really does improve developer productivity b…
ChatGPT << GPT4 when it comes to coding.
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#216Scary. For the first time in my life, I feel like my expertise is at risk of being rendered obsolete. Maybe not this year, but the writing is on the wall. Soon coding without an AI will feel as antiquated as delivering food by horse. And resistance is futile because markets will punish those who refuse. We'll probably need less and less developers as AI advance. Just like we need less manual labor in farms today. And…
>We'll probably need less and less developers as AI advance.
We've always progressed to needing fewer developers to do what we currently do. Companies like Squarespace, Shopify, AWS, etc have allowed people to do more with less. Long gone are the days an artist would hire a developer to build them a website they could host a portfolio on.
But growth has filled in the voids with more ambitious work.
It's daunting, but you can also look at this from the opposite perspective. Why work for someone on a 5 person team, when you can try and run the same business with 1 person (i.e. you).
The people who should be afraid are actually those that run companies like Meta and Twitter. Better developer productivity means competitors can chomp at their heels with much smaller teams.
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#218I tried getting myself on the CLI waitlist ( https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-cli/ ). That they use ffmpeg as the example hits a huge pain point for me. But: "Next Waitlist by GitHub Next would like permission to: Act on your behalf Not owned or operated by GitHub" Why does signing up for a waitlist require me to give permissions to an app to act in my account? An app that isn't even officially from GitHub? Th…
Interesting, how does this know what executables are available on your PATH?
I guess since it runs does a shell executable, it can simply examine the path.
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#219Earlier quoted context omitted.
If it were not for the impending headset, Apple would look a wee bit caught out as well. I suspect once Apple turns toward gen ai, all of its other advantages (infra, hw, instal base, services, etc) will propel it to forefront.
Apple has always had its own hardware based silo to some extent (excellent products and design, fully integrated). Still, I suspect the AI stuff will be hard for them. They were first to market with Siri and it’s still trash 13yrs(?!) later. It’s always been what they’re weakest at, I’m not sure LLMs will be different for them. The headset could still give them a nice hardware platform advantage though if that UX bec…
> Still, I suspect the AI stuff will be hard for them.
They bought Siri! What stops them from buying someone for "ai"
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#220I tried getting myself on the CLI waitlist ( https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-cli/ ). That they use ffmpeg as the example hits a huge pain point for me. But: "Next Waitlist by GitHub Next would like permission to: Act on your behalf Not owned or operated by GitHub" Why does signing up for a waitlist require me to give permissions to an app to act in my account? An app that isn't even officially from GitHub? Th…
> Why does signing up for a waitlist require me to give permissions to an app to act in my account? An app that isn't even officially from GitHub? Because it uses GitHub's oauth flow, all applications who use this flow show the same stuff.
OAuth allows the use of different scopes for different levels of access. So just because it uses OAuth doesn't mean it has to require major account access.
I assume the problem is that GitHub doesn't have sufficiently granular permissions (OAuth scopes), or that the requesting app doesn't use the correct scopes.