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Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by sharemywin »

hu3 wrote: post #130

Scary. For the first time in my life, I feel like my expertise is at risk of being rendered obsolete. Maybe not this year, but the writing is on the wall. Soon coding without an AI will feel as antiquated as delivering food by horse. And resistance is futile because markets will punish those who refuse. We'll probably need less and less developers as AI advance. Just like we need less manual labor in farms today. And…

I call it Universal Pet Income. Because at that point won't we just be AI's pets?

Not that I'm against it. just call it for what it is.

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by BarryMilo »

RivieraKid wrote: post #163

I admit that I'm anxious about the possibility that AI will drive down demand for developer jobs. My base case is that it won't have a meaningful negative impact, but it's possible that it will, so it's unpleasant to have this uncertainty about the future and to see the technology develop very rapidly with big news coming almost every day - which I would be normally extatic about. I've been on a path to financial ind…

I'm thinking over the medium to long term, we'll lose jobs but we won't see them, they just won't have been created.

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by RivieraKid »

hu3 wrote: post #130

Scary. For the first time in my life, I feel like my expertise is at risk of being rendered obsolete. Maybe not this year, but the writing is on the wall. Soon coding without an AI will feel as antiquated as delivering food by horse. And resistance is futile because markets will punish those who refuse. We'll probably need less and less developers as AI advance. Just like we need less manual labor in farms today. And…

> Governments will have to ponder about what to do with a world of people who became inferior to machines at almost everything. Universal Basic Income?

Inferior to machines at almost everything? Most jobs are safe, look at the 25 most common jobs in the US - cashier, food preparation worker, stocking associate, laborer, janitor, construction worker, bookkeeper, server, medical assistant, bartender, administrative assistant, marketing specialist, police officer, electrician, mechanic, etc.

In theory, if all developers are replaced, they should be able to find a different job. The problem is that the different job may have lower pay and status.

There's really no need for UBI.

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by jlkuester7 »

epolanski wrote: post #114
efields wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The sublime plugin for Copilot works well enough already. I'm sure Copilot X will be something you can fold into any editor. I don't understand how so many folks seem to tolerate the UX lag in VSCode

Maybe they have a better machine than you so they don't notice it.

My dev machine is sufficiently beefy (32G of RAM). I recently tried https://lapce.dev/ and was very surprised that it was noticeably more snappy than VSC. (I am not super sensitive to that kind of thing after years spent in Eclipse/IDEA.).

Made me realize how I can just become accustomed to a certain amount of lagging....

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by sharemywin »

teaearlgraycold wrote: post #187
fn-mote wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> For the first time in my life, I feel like my expertise is at risk of being rendered obsolete. Maybe not this year, but the writing is on the wall. My expertise is in designing, understanding, and debugging complex systems. I will just apply my expertise to the AI. Another angle: just think of how many mom and pop shops are still contracting out to get web sites, and not getting what we consider quality. Now maybe…

Nah, I’ll leave the bay once salaries drop. Not years before.

I wouldn't own housing there.

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Post by _bohm »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #94
_bohm wrote: post #16

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Could you explain your reasoning? You expect that these tools will create more work to get from point A to point B rather than less?

It wouldn't be unreasonable to expect just that. Overall, producing code quicker is probably not something we need. It's plenty quick to type code. What's slow is finding good designs. I think more often than not, we jump to the coding part too early and build things too soon. This creates problems that are hard to fix after the fact. The easier it is to produce code, the more code will be produced. The more code is…

Yeah I think there's a lot of sense in that. I think it's likely that the ability to use these tools in a disciplined fashion will grow to be a significant differentiator between more effective and less effective programmers. The former taking a considered approach to design and then using the tools where they're a real force multiplier e.g., writing unit tests, and the latter prompting them to spit out large swaths of code they would have previously written by hand: "write an endpoint that does X".

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by mynameisvlad »

rvz wrote: post #140
mike_hearn wrote: post #71

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I hope that Copilot X will be brought to other IDEs as well, not just Visual Studio [Code].

Here we go again with the editor lock in as precisely predicted. [0] [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27685104

I like how you probably spent more time looking up your multiple-year-old comment that could have instead been used to make sure that you’re not sounding like a fool that doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

They have already committed to releasing it to all editors Copilot supports. So, you know, the exact opposite of editor lock in.

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by darepublic »

w-m wrote: post #33

I tried getting myself on the CLI waitlist ( https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-cli/ ). That they use ffmpeg as the example hits a huge pain point for me. But: "Next Waitlist by GitHub Next would like permission to: Act on your behalf Not owned or operated by GitHub" Why does signing up for a waitlist require me to give permissions to an app to act in my account? An app that isn't even officially from GitHub? Th…

+1 for copilot is good for ffmpeg. Recently did a project involving complicated ffmpeg filters, it could handle them on it's own quite well.

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by RivieraKid »

sharemywin wrote: post #191
hu3 wrote: post #130

Scary. For the first time in my life, I feel like my expertise is at risk of being rendered obsolete. Maybe not this year, but the writing is on the wall. Soon coding without an AI will feel as antiquated as delivering food by horse. And resistance is futile because markets will punish those who refuse. We'll probably need less and less developers as AI advance. Just like we need less manual labor in farms today. And…

I call it Universal Pet Income. Because at that point won't we just be AI's pets? Not that I'm against it. just call it for what it is.

No, the AI will work for us, it's our pet.

Re: GitHub Copilot X – Sign up for technical preview

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Post by pastor_bob »

w-m wrote: post #33

I tried getting myself on the CLI waitlist ( https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-cli/ ). That they use ffmpeg as the example hits a huge pain point for me. But: "Next Waitlist by GitHub Next would like permission to: Act on your behalf Not owned or operated by GitHub" Why does signing up for a waitlist require me to give permissions to an app to act in my account? An app that isn't even officially from GitHub? Th…

Interesting, how does this know what executables are available on your PATH?
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