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Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by andrewfong »

rippercushions wrote: post #220
cdepman wrote: post #75

Wonderful. I recently rented a model 3 and found it incredibly frustrating that it required multiple touches to adjust settings that would be a single button press on a more traditional car. Don’t even get me started on the windshield wipers - a total nightmare in winter storms and located on the left stalk? These are safety concerns. As long as humans are operating these dangerous vehicles, I vote for fewer driver d…

I almost didn't buy a Tesla because of my concerns over the lack of controls, but turns out that while driving, it's rarely if ever necessary to touch the screen, because there's voice commands for everything (navigate to X, climate control off, etc). Plus often you don't need to do anything at all: the lights switch on automatically if it's dark, the windshield wipers activate automatically if there's moisture, etc.…

YMMV I suppose but the "auto" options for climate + wipers do not work well for me.

Single droplet in the right spot => furious wiping. 100 droplets in the wrong spots => no wipe.

Climate - My preferred mode is to have the A/C on but not actually directed straight at me (so through the windshield vents), but auto also blasts through the front.

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Post by piva00 »

saagarjha wrote: post #271
dybber wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It will probably make production costs cheaper in the long run to avoid as many buttons as possible, unless legislation forbids it due to safety concerns. I’m on team Hyundai in this case, but if you want to produce the cheapest possible car, you will have to reduce the amount of components that needs to be installed.

Teslas aren’t particularly cheap, of course.

They do look cheap once you step inside.

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Post by masteruvpuppetz »

ad-astra wrote: post #260
tastysandwich wrote: post #154

When researching family cars recently, I literally avoided the Honda CR-V just because the AC was controlled via the touch screen. There's a "Climate" button, which brings up a screen on the display where you can turn the aircon on/off, up/down, etc. It's just horrendous. Give me my dials. My worst gripe - which all modern cars have - is the aggressive bluetooth auto-connect. If my wife takes the car, it will automat…

This is why I always turn off Bluetooth when watching porn, otherwise my phone auto-connects to my wife’s Mini Cooper when she drives into the garage. DAMN YOU AUTO-CONNECT!!

I'll do that next time too

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Post by Toutouxc »

kristopolous wrote: post #219
gffrd wrote: post #201

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The other day, I was taking a call on my iPhone, over the earpiece, in my office suite's lobby. The connection was rock solid, and then out of nowhere the audio just disappeared, without warning … but the call didn't drop. A few seconds later it returned. The person on the other end said they heard what sounded like a child for a second. I was perplexed. Fast forward a week, and this happens again. I look at the call…

I really want an option like this Enable [ X ] Audio [ ] Phone Calls Because I never, not one single time, wanted a phone call to blast over my car audio. Not once. I can't be the only one that has wanted the car to be a speakerphone exactly 0 times. Heck maybe someone is the opposite. They love terrestrial radio or their CD collection and also the speakerphone feature. Give people options.

I don't think my iPhone has this, but my 2018 Škoda has this. There are exactly these two checkboxes, they say something like "phone" and "audio" and they do exactly that. And this isn't even when pairing, you can bring up the menu anytime and just enable or disable each functionality. I usually drive, so we connect my girlfriend's phone to "audio" so she can be the DJ while I leave my phone connected to "phone" so I can take calls.

(My car as a speakerphone works beautifully. It's not even about the speakerphone, more about the good microphone, the ability to call someone, adjust the volume and then hang up without having to take your hands off the wheel.)

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Post by nixass »

illumin8 wrote: post #242
doctor_eval wrote: post #205

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actually the wipers have a physical one-shot button on the stalk.

Yeah, hilarious how people are complaining about wipers when they literally have a 1-shot button on the stalk to trigger a quick blast at any time. Hold down for 2 seconds to get wiper fluid/de-icer. Seems like Tesla actually has the safety feature you want.

Seems like Tesla has a lot of solutions to problems people never had in the past until Tesla came around

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by pier25 »

tastysandwich wrote: post #154

When researching family cars recently, I literally avoided the Honda CR-V just because the AC was controlled via the touch screen. There's a "Climate" button, which brings up a screen on the display where you can turn the aircon on/off, up/down, etc. It's just horrendous. Give me my dials. My worst gripe - which all modern cars have - is the aggressive bluetooth auto-connect. If my wife takes the car, it will automat…

I hate the touchscreen on my HRV. Thankfully I almost never use it and most controls are buttons and dials but I agree it would be a deal breaker if everything was touch based.

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Post by nixass »

Stratoscope wrote: post #180
judge2020 wrote: post #169

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The way to do it is to press the wiper button (press in on the stalk button) to swipe one and then it gives you options for manual wiper speed selection via an on-screen control.

So I use a touchscreen to adjust the wiper speed and delay? In the worst kind of weather where I really need it? Sign me up! This is a huge improvement over my 2008 Kia where I twist the stalk and don't have to look at it and I can keep my eyes on the road. OTOH, my old Kia doesn't have Full Self Driving. Ah well.

> my old Kia doesn't have Full Self Driving

Don't worry, neither does Tesla :)

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Post by 8n4vidtmkvmk »

speedgoose wrote: post #243
8n4vidtmkvmk wrote: post #213

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At least you only rented it. I've never driven a Tesla but I don't have to to know that would be horrible.

You better not drive one because you may be surprised.

Surprised good or surprised bad? It's probably fun to drive but the screen I'm not interested in.

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Post by sandgiant »

mavu wrote: post #4

I bought a Peugeot over a VW because it has actual physical buttons. Keep pushing touch controls, I keep not buying your shit.

I bought a used 2019 VW instead of a new model for this exact reason. I'm afraid it's the last VW I'll own unless they roll back touch controls.
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