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Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by princevegeta89 »

tastysandwich wrote: post #154

When researching family cars recently, I literally avoided the Honda CR-V just because the AC was controlled via the touch screen. There's a "Climate" button, which brings up a screen on the display where you can turn the aircon on/off, up/down, etc. It's just horrendous. Give me my dials. My worst gripe - which all modern cars have - is the aggressive bluetooth auto-connect. If my wife takes the car, it will automat…

Extending this topic, I've also had my phone calls hijacked by my wife who has just started the engine and is about to drive out. Happened to her when I took the car too. It brings a great deal of confusion as to wtf happened to our phone calls.

I always wondered why they couldn't prioritize devices close to the system over others

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by manmal »

I have a Hyundai Ioniq 1st gen, and the main reason I didn’t go for the 2nd gen was the touch-only controls (capacitive buttons). I’m happy that Hyundai reconsidered this - I love the build quality of their cars and this decision will make it way easier to be a repeat customer.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by TheSpiceIsLife »

eindiran wrote: post #128
TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #100

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I have a hand-screw isolator on the battery of my my VW T5, like this https://images.app.goo.gl/d5GXhBocg3gEjhbZA I take the green screw part with me if I have any concerns, and sometimes even if it's parked in it's usual place at home. I figure if a their tries to start the vehicle and it doesn't even turn on, they're likely to move to the next vehicle rather than muck about trying to troubleshoot mine. It's low tec…

You are now the second person to recommend me an idea in that vein; I have just been using a steering wheel lock since I can't actually get an immobilizer rn. So I think I will actually materialize on your idea. Appreciate the comment.

One step further I've thought of would be to buy two and remove the brass threaded contactor from one of the green hand screws and replace it with a nylon part so you could screw the dummy unit in to make it appear as though the unit is complete, thereby potential throwing off a savey would-be their who is familiar with the the trick of removing the contractor.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by jerkstate »

bdcravens wrote: post #195
jerkstate wrote: post #191

I fully support this for basic environmental controls and audio, but there is a limit. I test drove a Kia EV6 GT recently and it has, IIRC, 4 up-down levers and about 8 or 10 other buttons on the steering wheel, flappy paddles, and stalks. Compared to Tesla (which I also test-drove), which has only two pushbutton scroll wheels and two stalks, and a big screen. the polar opposite. I think neither gets it exactly right…

I've had an EV6 for 6 months, and I don't find them counterintuitive.

be honest - how many of the 30 or 40 physical controls do you actually use on a regular basis?

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by nixass »

tastysandwich wrote: post #154

When researching family cars recently, I literally avoided the Honda CR-V just because the AC was controlled via the touch screen. There's a "Climate" button, which brings up a screen on the display where you can turn the aircon on/off, up/down, etc. It's just horrendous. Give me my dials. My worst gripe - which all modern cars have - is the aggressive bluetooth auto-connect. If my wife takes the car, it will automat…

Just FYI, CR-V model 2023 has all necessary controls back on buttons. I took it back into consideration for that fact only

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by davchana »

cdepman wrote: post #75

Wonderful. I recently rented a model 3 and found it incredibly frustrating that it required multiple touches to adjust settings that would be a single button press on a more traditional car. Don’t even get me started on the windshield wipers - a total nightmare in winter storms and located on the left stalk? These are safety concerns. As long as humans are operating these dangerous vehicles, I vote for fewer driver d…

Is (among other things) having windshield wipers control on left stalk being a dangerous thing? That cars I had in other countries (with opposite side driving) had signals on right & wipers on left stalk.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by davchana »

colordrops wrote: post #138
biofox wrote: post #121

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That sounds like a poor solution to a problem of their own making

As an owner it works great. Windshield wipers have a sensor for automatic control, and if you want to manually adjust, voice recognition is highly accurate these days. I switch between my Prius and Tesla all the time as my wife shares the vehicles, and I much prefer the Tesla controls. But I'll get off of your lawn if you'd like.

I don't own Tesla, I have a strong Punjabi Accent when i speak English. Many bigger companies phone trees based on voice "commands" are useless for me. It never understands me. My Ford Sync voice controls too struggle to understand me. I prefer buttons.

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Post by afiori »

fiddlerwoaroof wrote: post #258
sundvor wrote: post #255

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Ironically, perhaps, the car everyone must be complaining about in this thread introduced call transfer controls that avoids just this. Through an OTA update. Yes, it's Tesla. If you're already on a call when the car connects to the phone, you must press an on screen button to transfer the call to the car audio. (Bloody brilliant, if you ask me; and also something that couldn't be introduced to existing cars post rel…

I was sort of in the anti-touchscreen camp too, but the early 2020 Tesla has just the right controls on the wheel and stocks that I don’t mind the screen. And, also, the big screen for maps and backup cameras is really nice.

Well the anti touch screen camp is more accurately a "don't take my dials and buttons" camp

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by saagarjha »

thesuitonym wrote: post #185
tastysandwich wrote: post #183

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Then it becomes really annoying when we're both in the car and I want to use my phone.

There is no magic solution that would, without user intervention, automatically know which phone you want to connect. It can't (yet) read your mind.

I have a wireless CarPlay dongle. If you don’t do anything it connects to the last used device if it can find it in 15 seconds or so. Otherwise it connects to any remembered device, and you can pick which one if you have one to prioritize.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by Seattle3503 »

tastysandwich wrote: post #154

When researching family cars recently, I literally avoided the Honda CR-V just because the AC was controlled via the touch screen. There's a "Climate" button, which brings up a screen on the display where you can turn the aircon on/off, up/down, etc. It's just horrendous. Give me my dials. My worst gripe - which all modern cars have - is the aggressive bluetooth auto-connect. If my wife takes the car, it will automat…

Bluetooth interfaces need a way to disable individual devices with a slider.
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