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Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by gffrd »

tastysandwich wrote: post #154

When researching family cars recently, I literally avoided the Honda CR-V just because the AC was controlled via the touch screen. There's a "Climate" button, which brings up a screen on the display where you can turn the aircon on/off, up/down, etc. It's just horrendous. Give me my dials. My worst gripe - which all modern cars have - is the aggressive bluetooth auto-connect. If my wife takes the car, it will automat…

The other day, I was taking a call on my iPhone, over the earpiece, in my office suite's lobby.

The connection was rock solid, and then out of nowhere the audio just disappeared, without warning … but the call didn't drop. A few seconds later it returned. The person on the other end said they heard what sounded like a child for a second. I was perplexed.

Fast forward a week, and this happens again. I look at the call screen, and notice that the audio is being routed to Bluetooth? Opening it, it says I'm connected to my car. Not possible: I'm here, in my office, took a bus in.

I look up, baffled, and happen to see my wife drive by, 40 feet away, through a concrete wall and some glass.

Damn you, auto-connect. DAMN YOU.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by wincy »

qgin wrote: post #188
tastysandwich wrote: post #154

When researching family cars recently, I literally avoided the Honda CR-V just because the AC was controlled via the touch screen. There's a "Climate" button, which brings up a screen on the display where you can turn the aircon on/off, up/down, etc. It's just horrendous. Give me my dials. My worst gripe - which all modern cars have - is the aggressive bluetooth auto-connect. If my wife takes the car, it will automat…

I could live with auto-connect, but the assumption that I want to immediately start playing anything seems like a nuts assumption to me.

What’s hilarious is the $10 Bluetooth retrofit I got on Amazon in my 2011 car doesn’t even do this. It just works as a Bluetooth speaker but doesn’t start playing and connects only when I turn on the car. Simple and easy to use.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by paranoidrobot »

qgin wrote: post #188
tastysandwich wrote: post #154

When researching family cars recently, I literally avoided the Honda CR-V just because the AC was controlled via the touch screen. There's a "Climate" button, which brings up a screen on the display where you can turn the aircon on/off, up/down, etc. It's just horrendous. Give me my dials. My worst gripe - which all modern cars have - is the aggressive bluetooth auto-connect. If my wife takes the car, it will automat…

I could live with auto-connect, but the assumption that I want to immediately start playing anything seems like a nuts assumption to me.

I believe it's controlled from the phone side of things.

I'll listen to some music, watch a video, whatever on my phone. I'll pause it, turn off my bluetooth headphones.

Then some time much later, I'll get a phone call, turn my headphones on. When the call ends, suddenly what I had been playing starts playing again through my headphones. It's been a wide variety of apps, not one single thing: podcasts, youtube videos, videos on webpages, google music, spotify.

The pseudocode I had in my head was the phone subsystem had something like:

func onCallDisconnect() { if bluetooth.Headphones.IsConnected && media.IsPaused { media.Play() } }

It's stopped, I think, on new Android versions. At least I haven't had it happen for a while.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by MarcoZavala »

gffrd wrote: post #201
tastysandwich wrote: post #154

When researching family cars recently, I literally avoided the Honda CR-V just because the AC was controlled via the touch screen. There's a "Climate" button, which brings up a screen on the display where you can turn the aircon on/off, up/down, etc. It's just horrendous. Give me my dials. My worst gripe - which all modern cars have - is the aggressive bluetooth auto-connect. If my wife takes the car, it will automat…

The other day, I was taking a call on my iPhone, over the earpiece, in my office suite's lobby. The connection was rock solid, and then out of nowhere the audio just disappeared, without warning … but the call didn't drop. A few seconds later it returned. The person on the other end said they heard what sounded like a child for a second. I was perplexed. Fast forward a week, and this happens again. I look at the call…

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Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

#205

Post by doctor_eval »

gbin wrote: post #142
redindian75 wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

model 3 has voice control "turn on wipers" "set AC to 68" "drive home" - at the press of a button, the music fades and it listens like "hey Siri"

To me, this is definitely a major safety hazard to rely on voice command. If you just get splashed and in a stressed out voice you ask for wipers and your car might not understand you.

actually the wipers have a physical one-shot button on the stalk.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by afavour »

judge2020 wrote: post #167
NotYourLawyer wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And navigating a software menu (which changes at random times when it updates itself) just to open the fucking glove compartment. What was wrong with a physical latch?

It allows you to lock it with a pin. I don't want to carry keys.

It’s entirely possible to do both.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by 8n4vidtmkvmk »

tastysandwich wrote: post #154

When researching family cars recently, I literally avoided the Honda CR-V just because the AC was controlled via the touch screen. There's a "Climate" button, which brings up a screen on the display where you can turn the aircon on/off, up/down, etc. It's just horrendous. Give me my dials. My worst gripe - which all modern cars have - is the aggressive bluetooth auto-connect. If my wife takes the car, it will automat…

My Mazda CX-5 has buttons for A/C control but I'm still annoyed because my '99 Civic had knobs which are infinitely better. One for temp, one for fan. That's all I need. Don't want no stinking buttons for fan intensity in a row of 100 other buttons.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by 8n4vidtmkvmk »

gffrd wrote: post #201
tastysandwich wrote: post #154

When researching family cars recently, I literally avoided the Honda CR-V just because the AC was controlled via the touch screen. There's a "Climate" button, which brings up a screen on the display where you can turn the aircon on/off, up/down, etc. It's just horrendous. Give me my dials. My worst gripe - which all modern cars have - is the aggressive bluetooth auto-connect. If my wife takes the car, it will automat…

The other day, I was taking a call on my iPhone, over the earpiece, in my office suite's lobby. The connection was rock solid, and then out of nowhere the audio just disappeared, without warning … but the call didn't drop. A few seconds later it returned. The person on the other end said they heard what sounded like a child for a second. I was perplexed. Fast forward a week, and this happens again. I look at the call…

I turn my bluetooth completely off for this reason. It's the only way I can figure to prevent this.
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