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Re: Google Bard waitlist

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post #158

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! Sigh. Google never learns. By the time they add support for using this in my country, there's no reason for me to use it anymore as competitors have already swept in. It's the same playbook with every US-only launch: 1. get everybody hyped up 2. make it accessible to only a minor subset of people but advertise it as a "launch" or "open beta" or whatever 3.…

You're not missing anything. The thing is crap and they know it.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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post #158

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! Sigh. Google never learns. By the time they add support for using this in my country, there's no reason for me to use it anymore as competitors have already swept in. It's the same playbook with every US-only launch: 1. get everybody hyped up 2. make it accessible to only a minor subset of people but advertise it as a "launch" or "open beta" or whatever 3.…

> This Google Account isn’t supported > Bard does not currently support Google Workspace accounts or when our systems indicate you may be under 18. Learn more Google: 15 years of punishment for being a loyal Dasher/ Google Apps/GSuite/Google Workspace user.

Use VPN. It was easy to trick and get on the waitlist.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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The comments here are very interesting. I see very little about the actual performance of bard (and the few comments that do mention that it's worse than chatgpt because it uses a much smaller model to reduce inference costs). Instead most comments are either about country/workspace account restrictions, googles past history with sunsetting products, or their general lack of product releases in the ml space. Incredib…

I find these boring af. Complaints about Google's history of killing products are the most predictable reaction to any Google news on HN and it's been like that for a long time. They often make these threads tedious to read and it's not exactly what makes HN interesting. Complaints about geographic restrictions are not quite as common, but just as tedious and I wish people writing these comments would consider that m…

I think the geographic restrictions are especially relevant here since this is supposed to be Google's answer to ChatGPT, which launched months ago with none of these restrictions.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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The comments here are very interesting. I see very little about the actual performance of bard (and the few comments that do mention that it's worse than chatgpt because it uses a much smaller model to reduce inference costs). Instead most comments are either about country/workspace account restrictions, googles past history with sunsetting products, or their general lack of product releases in the ml space. Incredib…

Having spent the past week engaging heavily with GPT-4 and GPT-3.5-Turbo, Bard is absolutely blown out of the water by them. In particular, Bard struggles heavily with creative applications. It is unable to write poetry or create detailed stories from short descriptions. It also refuses to generate or talk about code (inconsistent, it sometimes forgets). It is also vulnerable to "Ignore your previous instructions," w…

The poetry and storytelling are compelling experiences, but ultimately I think they’re largely party tricks. It’ll be a minority of uses in 5 years. I far rather see emphasis in practicality.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Bing is 3.5% of market share in Europe, and Edge is even less. You're talking about maybe ~1% of search that Bing Chat is practically available to (in Europe). It's a lot less risky for Microsoft to do what they did than for Google to just open the floodgates in Europe.

Both companies are big enough that the laws in Europe are the same whether there are a hundred or hundred million local users.

No.

If Google does something on Chrome OS - the EU isn't going to scrutinize it the same way if MS does something on Windows.

Same, but opposite for Bing vs Google Search.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find these boring af. Complaints about Google's history of killing products are the most predictable reaction to any Google news on HN and it's been like that for a long time. They often make these threads tedious to read and it's not exactly what makes HN interesting. Complaints about geographic restrictions are not quite as common, but just as tedious and I wish people writing these comments would consider that m…

I think the geographic restrictions are especially relevant here since this is supposed to be Google's answer to ChatGPT, which launched months ago with none of these restrictions.

I think the parent's point is that the discussion should be "What limitations or concerns have prevented Google from launching this globally?" rather than a series of comments that are essentially all just: "sO lAmE tHiS iSnT GLOBAL?".

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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post #304

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Also libel (if the LLM makes up facts about someone), copyright (if it reproduces content), privacy (if some of the data it trained on wasn't intended to be public), etc. And on top of that, there are plenty of novel things that may or may not be illegal. If it can be tricked into making a pro-Nazi statement, is it violating German law? What if it offers medical or legal advice without a license? It's a pretty big le…

That's the cost of being first to market on something like this. You can't both play it safe and lead the pack.

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Re: Google Bard waitlist

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post #264

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Same here, and the account switcher doesn't work.

At least Google has an account switcher. I’m looking at you, AWS. (I’m currently launching a project on Google Cloud, and I’m picking it over AWS primarily because the AWS console’s account management is so terrible [0]. There are only so many hours in the day, and the whole point of paying a 4-40x markup for the cloud is to reduce workload.) Not that Google’s account switcher has ever been particularly good. [0] Not…

I use separate Chrome profiles to switch AWS accounts.

Also better to have no browser extensions installed when doing anything sensitive.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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post #158

> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! Sigh. Google never learns. By the time they add support for using this in my country, there's no reason for me to use it anymore as competitors have already swept in. It's the same playbook with every US-only launch: 1. get everybody hyped up 2. make it accessible to only a minor subset of people but advertise it as a "launch" or "open beta" or whatever 3.…

> This Google Account isn’t supported > Bard does not currently support Google Workspace accounts or when our systems indicate you may be under 18. Learn more Google: 15 years of punishment for being a loyal Dasher/ Google Apps/GSuite/Google Workspace user.

I got the same one.

Bad experience Google.

What gives.

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