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Can anyone confirm VPN's works for signup?
The sign-up itself worked. I've not gotten access yet.
Got access.
Google Bard waitlist
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#322These limited closed betas seem to really kill hype on a lot of their products, which leads to them not having a lot of use, then google killing them...
To be fair, the beta, invite-only status of GMail was, at the time, the definition of Internet Cool.
And Google Circle.. (r.i.p)
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#324> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! Sigh. Google never learns. By the time they add support for using this in my country, there's no reason for me to use it anymore as competitors have already swept in. It's the same playbook with every US-only launch: 1. get everybody hyped up 2. make it accessible to only a minor subset of people but advertise it as a "launch" or "open beta" or whatever 3.…
Not trying to be rude, but when you're a company the size of Google - that's had MASSIVE lawsuits - you can't just willy-nilly release products globally.
Hasn't stopped Tesla and their products can kill people
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You mean like a company the size of Microsoft? Bing chat was earlier and global.
Bing is 3.5% of market share in Europe, and Edge is even less. You're talking about maybe ~1% of search that Bing Chat is practically available to (in Europe). It's a lot less risky for Microsoft to do what they did than for Google to just open the floodgates in Europe.
Both companies are big enough that the laws in Europe are the same whether there are a hundred or hundred million local users.
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This idea that corporate criticism is off limits simply because the corporation has the legal right to make product decisions is one of the weirdest things I regularly see. No one is claiming that they don't have a legal right to do this. Yeah, it's their product and their choice. But you're on a website with founders and tech workers. Part of what we do here is talk about why things work, why they don't, and ways to…
> There's nothing wrong with criticizing our industry or pointing out when one of the big companies regularly shoots itself in the foot Actually, in some cases, there is: exposing your endpoints to nefarious actors from countries where there is no jurisdiction, functioning tech laws, etcetera. It is better & safer to launch small with a somewhat "trusted crowd" first. You live in a dream world or have not launched an…
If someone from Netherlands accessing your website puts your data at risk, someone accessing your site from the US puts your data at risk.
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#327The comments here are very interesting. I see very little about the actual performance of bard (and the few comments that do mention that it's worse than chatgpt because it uses a much smaller model to reduce inference costs). Instead most comments are either about country/workspace account restrictions, googles past history with sunsetting products, or their general lack of product releases in the ml space. Incredib…
I find these boring af. Complaints about Google's history of killing products are the most predictable reaction to any Google news on HN and it's been like that for a long time. They often make these threads tedious to read and it's not exactly what makes HN interesting. Complaints about geographic restrictions are not quite as common, but just as tedious and I wish people writing these comments would consider that maybe they don't have the full picture and there might be reasons why a company does something that on the surface looks counter-productive. Like legal implications that might vary by country, or whatever. Then write about that instead.
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Clubhouse was even more stupid by launching iOS only which killed themself.
This is not what killed clubhouse. In fact, clubhouse instantly got worse when they launched the android app...
Clubhouse from the beginning was just a bunch of vapid hot air about how cool Clubhouse was, without any substantive backing behind the supposed coolness except for all the VC-backed users constantly saying how cool it was.
When Clubhouse finally opened up to a wider audience of people who weren't being incentivized to use it, new users churned out almost immediately because it wasn't actually very cool at all.
Basically, the story of Clubhouse was the story of Google Glass.
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I don't know what product you are referring to that MS has shipped for years. I'm referring to ChatGPT and Bing integration, which is very recent. That was a big surprise to everyone AFAIK.
https://news.microsoft.com/source/features/ai/from-conversat... "We’re finding ways to bring it into Azure and our mainstream products" "And in the same way that you type a question into a search engine and then get to decide which result to click on, GPT-3 returns multiple suggestions for Power Fx formulas." They've been telegraphing this in the open for about 2 years. ChatGPT is an incremental development. Google w…
And I'm talking about this very specific new product needing legal review which takes time.
Not a general vague sense of AI investment. You can't do legal review on a generalized "direction", no matter how telegraphed you think it is.
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Also libel (if the LLM makes up facts about someone), copyright (if it reproduces content), privacy (if some of the data it trained on wasn't intended to be public), etc. And on top of that, there are plenty of novel things that may or may not be illegal. If it can be tricked into making a pro-Nazi statement, is it violating German law? What if it offers medical or legal advice without a license? It's a pretty big le…
That's the cost of being first to market on something like this. You can't both play it safe and lead the pack.
Yeah let’s move fast and break stuff! Forget those inconvenient local laws and culture!
This attitude is what is leading to the regulation and probable over regulation due to backlash of ‘big tech’.
Those days are over.
Just like any other sector doesn’t get to ignore laws.
Unregulated US social media hit our democracies like a hurricane.
The body politik doesn’t seem to be of a mind to let them do the same with AI.