"If a Pixar employee applies to Intel without being recruited by Intel, contact Pat Gelsinger and explain to him a Pixar employee (provide the candidates name) has applied to Intel without being recruited and he will contact the CEO of Pixar for approval to hire" Scary.
Steve Jobs personally asked Eric Schmidt to stop poaching employees
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Re: Steve Jobs personally asked Eric Schmidt to stop poaching employees
#142I'm surprised just how ruthlessly this was enforced. When Jobs complained to Schmidt, the person who contacted an Apple employee was "terminated within the hour." A Senior Google VP replied: "Appropriate response, thank you. Please make a public example of this termination with the group." Mind you, they have a great incentive. Only a handful of companies recognise 10x (or 100x) developers and they would like to cont…
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#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just because something is expected doesn't mean that it is acceptable. On the contrary, if someone fucks up, like they always do, and you EXPECT it, you can act on it. In this case, thousands of people are about to have a payday because some evil execs who probably don't even know how email works fucked up. Someone, somewhere expected it, got the evidence nailed down, and went after them. After this settles, there's…
hmmm... Well, this isn't an attack against you personally, or a tit-for-tat sort of comment, but... > We have to work among the group of people for which this behavior is standard procedure. You ARE saying that this is acceptable, since "we have to" work among them, and I just don't agree :)
Re: Steve Jobs personally asked Eric Schmidt to stop poaching employees
#144This happens everywhere and at all levels.
Re: Steve Jobs personally asked Eric Schmidt to stop poaching employees
#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agreed. If I were larry or sergei I'd fire Schmidt. Now, that might mean I'd never run a company as large as google, but I'm okay with that. This incident removes Google from my list of tech giants I'd work for leaving it, well, empty. Sad to see. I'm not surprised by the behaviour of Apple and others, but I thought better of Google than this.
I must admit that the next time a Google recruiter contacts me, chances are good I'll bring up this case.
Re: Steve Jobs personally asked Eric Schmidt to stop poaching employees
#146The one argument I get sick of hearing bandied around in cases like these is: "but those companies invested a lot of money in training their employees. How would you like it if you owned a business and trained someone only to have them poached?" In the words of Dwight Shrute: "False!". Most of the employees in question in this case and probably every other case where poaching is worthwhile are autodidacts. These empl…
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#147Re: Steve Jobs personally asked Eric Schmidt to stop poaching employees
#148I can only imagine how hard it is to have fair negotiations when a prospective employee applies at a competing company only to be told "no thanks" simply because of a hush hush agreement between the executives of said companies. This flies counter with Google's "do no evil" statement and certainly doesn't paint a positive posthumous picture of Jobs.
Agreed. If I were larry or sergei I'd fire Schmidt. Now, that might mean I'd never run a company as large as google, but I'm okay with that. This incident removes Google from my list of tech giants I'd work for leaving it, well, empty. Sad to see. I'm not surprised by the behaviour of Apple and others, but I thought better of Google than this.
Re: Steve Jobs personally asked Eric Schmidt to stop poaching employees
#149The one argument I get sick of hearing bandied around in cases like these is: "but those companies invested a lot of money in training their employees. How would you like it if you owned a business and trained someone only to have them poached?" In the words of Dwight Shrute: "False!". Most of the employees in question in this case and probably every other case where poaching is worthwhile are autodidacts. These empl…
When most people make investments they take steps to protect those investments, if they don't want to lose the investment they should match the salary of the competitor.