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Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by graypegg »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #320
graypegg wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an odd minority viewpoint for HN actually. I find most people feel rather empowered by the decentralized nature of mastodon… or email for that matter. Your right to freedom of speech is between you and the government. People aren’t required to publish your work just because you complain. The difference here is you can just hook into the same decentralized system the publisher is using, and subvert them by fin…

> This is an odd minority viewpoint for HN actually. I find most people feel rather empowered by the decentralized nature of mastodon… or email for that matter. Mastodon is decentralized at the protocol level. It's the opposite of that at the social level. The mob rule may be "decentralized", but it turns out it still sucks. Cross one extremist and get accused of being a bigot / -ist du jour, and them and their frien…

If I’m being honest, that’s a bit dramatic. The internet has always been at least a little clique-y.

If the group-think and witch hunting is as hard on you as you seem to describe, I can assure you there are MANY others in the same position.

So make your own thing.

Why’s that bad? Why are you responsible for expanding their minds and exposing the group-think sheep to new viewpoints? Live in your own rebel communities. Basically like the internet has operated for the last 30 years.

The adventurous among them will venture over when they want.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by detaro »

rchaud wrote: post #339
jrm4 wrote: post #274

For what it's worth, my Mastodon experience. Broadly, I think the best use of Mastodon IS to be a Twitter competitor; a noisy town square. What I have seen is -- the disagreeable people on Twitter want to publically fight. They want to push their bad ideas and have everyone listen to them, and thus are willing to get into it. The disagreeable people on Mastodon want to silence others. They're more block happy and don…

Mastodon is not a commercial entity, it doesn't have to compete with Twitter any more than my alumni.university email has to compete with Gmail. Mastodon offers a simple solution to stay out of the text wars, one that Twitter wouldn't dare offer: "turn off reblogs". Half the people I follow retweet/boost things I find irrelevant (personally). I can turn that off on Mastodon to reduce the noise. I can't on Twitter bec…

Twitter has that feature.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by rchaud »

sbuttgereit wrote: post #33
nforgerit wrote: post #18

After about 6 months hosting my own little private Mastodon instance, I can say the following things: (1) Whoever cares about that but the atmosphere is nice, cozy, exciting and creative. Zero toxicity and probably several magnitudes more meaningful conversations with people from all around the world. This apparently comes from the kinds of people I could find and connect with. (2) Hosting is relatively easy. I think…

" Zero toxicity and probably several magnitudes more meaningful conversations with people from all around the world. This apparently comes from the kinds of people I could find and connect with. " So long as you lean to progressive worldviews and see insult slinging at those that don't see your way not as being toxic, but rather just expressions of righteous indignation... sure, I could buy that line. A quick perusal…

> No contrary views were there at all. Perhaps this is what you mean: it's your bubble, so it's cozy and non-toxic.

I'm not sure what your definition of 'town square' is: are you sure you're not looking for a town Coliseum?

Most people are not online to debate controversial topics with anonymous strangers.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by [deleted] »

LBJsPNS wrote: post #313
realjhol wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How very sad for you. Someone running a private server doesn't want you coming into their living room and taking a dump on the floor, metaphorically speaking. I'm sure if you look around you can find an instance where sexist views are tolerated, and even encouraged. I'm not a sexist. I love women which is why I don't want them to be killed in the womb. I didn't do anything in his living room. He said "we don't serv…

I don't associate with neo-nazis, neo-confederates, racists, sexists, insurrectionists, kiddy diddlers, and the like. So I haven't had that problem with being refused service. Tell me, is it a problem for you? I can't possibly imagine why.

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Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by rchaud »

TRiG_Ireland wrote: post #304

I'm on Mastodon, but I find the experience extremely frustrating. The UI has all the annoyances of Twitter's (which I also dislike), and more besides. It's a fun enough place to mess around and post throwaway jokes, but using it for anything serious would be a mistake: federation means that often only some of the posts in a given thread make it to your server, so often bits of a conversation are silently missing. Thi…

I used a FOSS android app called Tusky and for the most part I can't tell the difference between that and Twitter.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by kertoip_1 »

tonystubblebine wrote: post #205

Regardless of this horse race coverage, I’ve been having a really good time on Mastodon. It’s much less toxic than Twitter and it’s easy to get into interesting discussions with smart people.

If you know who to follow. It's still much to be done with account recommendations

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by rchaud »

toomim wrote: post #340
app4soft wrote: post #156

> Mastodon hit 10M users Not a users, but accounts. 45% of 20 people that took part in my poll[0] has 2..4 accounts on various Mastodon servers (I has 3 accounts). [0] https://fosstodon.org/@app4soft/109885069770027479

And many accounts are not active. I would hazard a guess that of these 10M accounts, less than 1M are active users--making the submission headline very misleading indeed.

It's misleading if you think of it as an investor filing. Ooh, how are they calculating revenue per user??

Directionally, it's good news. More self-selecting into using Mastodon, hopefully for non-nefarious purposes (advertising, influencing, blowhard-ing), will lead to more conversations.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by bluGill »

graypegg wrote: post #199
brabel wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Toxic and hateful people simply get banned I don't know if that's supposed to sound like a good thing, but to me this sounds like a distopian place where anyone that does not align with the "correct worldview" is made to disappear and never be heard of again. If you think "only bad people are toxic", you probably haven't been to many debates where your viewpoint happens to be the minority viewpoint.

This is an odd minority viewpoint for HN actually. I find most people feel rather empowered by the decentralized nature of mastodon… or email for that matter. Your right to freedom of speech is between you and the government. People aren’t required to publish your work just because you complain. The difference here is you can just hook into the same decentralized system the publisher is using, and subvert them by fin…

What is bad is the missing balance. I need to see opposing views (there are more than two sides)

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by rchaud »

lazzlazzlazz wrote: post #110

Individual Mastodon instances have already begun exhibiting insane behavior, and relying on someone else's fiefdom isn't for me. Social media should give full control to the user on top of a credibly neutral layer.

> Social media should give full control to the user on top of a credibly neutral layer.

The whole point of Mastodon is unbundling this concept of 'social media' as an opaque entity of some kind. You already have full control with Mastodon. Don't like how your instance is doing moderation? Start your own instance and set your own rules.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by DeathArrow »

Pxtl wrote: post #334
DeathArrow wrote: post #329

I don't get what problem Mastodon is trying to solve.

Open-standard social network isn't a worthy problem? Social media solves a real problem, and Mastodon allows users to participate without submitting to the whims of Zuckerberg or Musk. Yes, Mastodon instances can (and do) have opinionated administrators, but Mastodon is unique among social media in that you can move to another instance without abandoning the entire network altogether.

>Open-standard social network isn't a worthy problem? Social media solves a real problem, and Mastodon allows users to participate without submitting to the whims of Zuckerberg or Musk.

There were plenty social media not owned by Zuckerberg or Musk networks already

>Yes, Mastodon instances can (and do) have opinionated administrators, but Mastodon is unique among social media in that you can move to another instance without abandoning the entire network altogether.

You mean like IRC?

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