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Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Post by wildrhythms »

corbulo wrote: post #235
notbuyingit wrote: post #203

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Sure, let's explore that. What are Hasan's extremist views? And keep in mind that I'm gonna cite Aden, Sneako, Trainwrecks, Mizkif and more in response.

I don't care who you cite. I'm not playing some dumb 'my team' game lol He used to work for The Young Turks, hosts streams with AOC and Ilhan Omar, is quoted as saying, "On Crenshaw, Piker said, "What the fuck is wrong with this dude? Didn’t he go to war and like literally lose his eye because some mujahideen, a brave fucking soldier fucked his eye hole with their dick?" And "In the same stream, Piker criticized Amer…

Hasan was right about all of that.

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Post by rldjbpin »

as someone spending fair bit of time watching streams on the site for much longer than Shear's tenure, i had no clue who was running the show. unlike the leadership at youtube, an average viewer had no such visibility of what's happening behind the scenes.

and that too, during the most interesting few years twitch has had. people have already listed out the bad parts, but simultaneously the site has broken several (albeit self-set) records.

it is crazy how so many people from mainstream media have interacted in the site, yet it is riddled with a lot of fundamental issues.

good luck to whomever takes over.

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Post by keiferski »

luckylion wrote: post #200
keiferski wrote: post #150

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A sizable portion of the entire internet is running WordPress. That’s billions of dollars a year.

They're running the Software, but they're not on wordpress.com. If we're talking about Software, then wow, Microsoft is really treating those game streamers well, because they can use it to play games which they stream.

Not really a good comparison. WordPress is comparable because it comes with the same/slightly different tools for building a business. It’s on the same shelf in the grocery store, so to speak.

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Post by Belphemur »

madrox wrote: post #122

As a former Twitch staff, I wish Emmett luck. Twitch is faced with several challenges right now: increasing competition from all sides, perpetually disgruntled creators, and pressure from their parent company to hit aggressive revenue targets while shilling for Amazon Games. This is all nothing new, and Emmett has been navigating it for years. I'm ready to believe it just doesn't seem as important now as it did a yea…

From what creators are saying Dan isn't the best choice either. He doesn't understand the industry from their point of view. Also he's the one that spearheaded the whole 70/30 split replaced by 50/50 split without any discussion in the matter.

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Post by bena »

Arainach wrote: post #266
bena wrote: post #118

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This is a red herring. I don't think WordPress pays anyone anything. They built a platform and the will also provide hosting. You can download WordPress from wordpress.org and just run it. Or you can go to wordpress.com and buy a whole hosting plan where wordpress.com manages the software for you. But WordPress doesn't give fuck number one about what you do with it. So you are free to monetize it in any fashion you w…

It's anything but. Video is more engaging than text. Video hosting is expensive. No one's making tens of thousands a month from their blog (or by convincing people to buy merch based on their blog).

Wordpress is more than blogs. You can run a whole ass site off of the Wordpress platform. You don't even need to have a blog.

But the point is still, Wordpress charges people. YouTube and Twitch do not.

They have a weird broadcast television model going. But broadcast television curates their content and charges advertisers decent rates not dependent on "engagement".

I'm not saying video hosting isn't expensive. I'm saying that YouTube and Twitch should be charging for it. If that makes it infeasible for some people to stream. I'm ok with that outcome.

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Post by luckylion »

keiferski wrote: post #273
luckylion wrote: post #200

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They're running the Software, but they're not on wordpress.com. If we're talking about Software, then wow, Microsoft is really treating those game streamers well, because they can use it to play games which they stream.

Not really a good comparison. WordPress is comparable because it comes with the same/slightly different tools for building a business. It’s on the same shelf in the grocery store, so to speak.

I don't think so. YT/Twitch provide the platform and the audience, that's comparable to wordpress.com (in a way; it doesn't really provide the audience).

I don't know of any creators that are leveraging wordpress.com.

Using the software is like using Windows (or Linux, if you want a comparison in open source), but I don't think anyone argues that Linux takes good care of creators in the way they expect it from Twitch or Youtube, primarily because Linux doesn't pay creators, it's not a middle-man, it's a tool. Like wordpress.

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Post by jimmydorry »

wsatb wrote: post #267
Asikaim wrote: post #174

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They didn't just "rip off the entire UI". Couple of years ago the entire sourcecode of Twitch leaked along with user data, SDKs, security tools etc. They used all that to create Kick after Twitch banned slots. Last time I checked, Kick still mostly used Twitch logos and their policy documents were still talking about Twitch, since they didn't even bother looking at them.

> Last time I checked, Kick still mostly used Twitch logos and their policy documents were still talking about Twitch, since they didn't even bother looking at them. While I have not spent enough time on Kick to confirm this, that seems 100% on brand. Again, it's not a legitimate business and likely never will be.

It sounds legit, yet I haven't seen any proof of it.

Kick uses a different technology stack, different frameworks and libraries... so I wonder how much really can be stolen? I wouldn't doubt boilerplate legaleese getting copied from Twitch though.

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

astrange wrote: post #253
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #53

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If I was worth ~100 million dollars, I would definitely quit my job.

That's why, if you're going to pay someone 100 million dollars, you make sure they're the kind of person who won't quit first.

Which means you're selecting for someone so covetously greedful they put the dragons of legend to shame with their avarice.

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Post by notbuyingit »

timr wrote: post #242
notbuyingit wrote: post #216

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Gonna go with "wearing a mask to stop particulate spread" is not separate but equal from taking horse dewormer. (And it's not an exaggeration to characterize it as such when they're literally buying drugs from farm suplly stores and injecting amounts meant for livestock over the course of a few days.) Similarly, I don't know anyone who has died from wearing a mask. This is not even to mention the numerous other studi…

Oh, stop. Ivermectin is a human drug. The fact that you're repeating this line shows that you're not commenting in good faith. Quite literally, the evidence for both is equally good (or bad). Citing mechanistic or laboratory studies is absurd, when we have actual RCTs.

Yeah, okay. Lmk when there's telegram groups of people injecting 10x the human dose of masks and literally dying.
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