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Post by cubefox »

AlexandrB wrote: post #201
skilled wrote: post #83

I've been a Twitch user since its first year. I have a select few streamers I watch, and I spend more time on the platform when there are new releases for games I personally like. But, I have been very in-tune with Twitch culture and I know how disorganized it is when it comes to "big" streamers. However, my issue (and also disappointment) with Twitch right now is: - Softcore porn allowed on the platform. Literally,…

They did eventually ban gambling streams, so who knows. The trouble, I think, is defining what qualifies as "software porn". Do you start policing what streamers are wearing? Are some activities, like squatting, disallowed? And any definition will probably court controversy, especially because it will overwhelmingly affect female streamers.

They could add a general ban of "intentional sexual behavior", which is vague enough to apply common sense and affect just the people who were meant to be affected. Similar to how a judge can use common sense to interpret vague terms in the law.

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Post by jonasdegendt »

ryandrake wrote: post #144
teachrdan wrote: post #79

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> for a lot of people, the birth of their first child changes their priorities CEOs are not a lot of people. By definition they are extremely few in number, and those who become CEOs of top companies have a perhaps pathological drive to get there. For someone like that, an entirely predictable event -- like the birth of a child -- is the last thing that would make them sacrifice the position they've worked so hard fo…

I honestly don't understand the mentality that drives someone to keep working after they've made, say, $100 million. Maybe that's why we're all not that person. Even if you're the most single-minded, driven person ever, once you get that much wealth you've pretty much won the game. You did it, you're done. The show's over. It's like continuing to play your Civilization game for "Just... One... More... Turn..." after…

Paul Graham wrote an article [0] on this that provided some insight into this for me. I still don’t completely get it but that’s probably because I’m not that kind of person either, or maybe we just haven’t found the thing yet that is able to drive us on all cylinders with no brakes.

[0] http://www.paulgraham.com/ace.html

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Post by DoctorOW »

tannhauser23 wrote: post #164
mrguyorama wrote: post #153

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Twitch will never stop the softcore porn because it's a huge source of revenue and they DGAF that they are serving softcore porn to teens. Honestly I don't care that teens watch cammers or porn, but it's toxic to the platform to have it share the same site, and that also allows payment to be shared and basically makes it way easier for kids to pay cammers, which is super weird IMO. I also really dislike the encourage…

I’ve talked to my friends about this (we all have young children) and they had no idea softcore porn is prevalent on twitch. Not to mention actual adult stars regularly streaming. And before anybody replies “and whats wrong with that” blah blah, parents still think of twitch as a place where kids can watch minecraft. Twitch is playing with fire here.

I won't say "What's wrong with that" but I will point out that Twitch has in place safe modes for "Mature" streams that isn't much of a gate keeper, but neither is the little M that pops up in the corner of mature TV programs. The site also doesn't seem to do anything to intentionally market directly to children. Not that it doesn't attract kids, but so does TV. I don't think it's unfair to expect parents to keep an eye on what their kids watch.

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Post by op00to »

tannhauser23 wrote: post #164
mrguyorama wrote: post #153

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Twitch will never stop the softcore porn because it's a huge source of revenue and they DGAF that they are serving softcore porn to teens. Honestly I don't care that teens watch cammers or porn, but it's toxic to the platform to have it share the same site, and that also allows payment to be shared and basically makes it way easier for kids to pay cammers, which is super weird IMO. I also really dislike the encourage…

I’ve talked to my friends about this (we all have young children) and they had no idea softcore porn is prevalent on twitch. Not to mention actual adult stars regularly streaming. And before anybody replies “and whats wrong with that” blah blah, parents still think of twitch as a place where kids can watch minecraft. Twitch is playing with fire here.

Not saying it’s not there, but I’ve never seen anything like soft core porn on twitch. What’s wrong with me that the algorithm thinks I don’t like naked people?

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Post by corobo »

spyke112 wrote: post #133
sleepybrett wrote: post #70

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You can subscribe to individual creators on twitch. This removes advertising from that streamers stream only.

Really should be a monthly subscription, that will get shared by all creators based on minutes of view time, or some other metric. Then maybe gate it behind some artificial limit, so that only serious creators will get a cut. I mean Spotify can share profits between every single artist, why cant twitch do the same? It would benefit both the consumer, higher likelihood of subscribing, and also the creators. They could…

They already have this, although it only pays the streamer for ads the viewer would have seen rather than split across view time.

https://www.twitch.tv/turbo

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Post by op00to »

ru552 wrote: post #178
tannhauser23 wrote: post #164

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I’ve talked to my friends about this (we all have young children) and they had no idea softcore porn is prevalent on twitch. Not to mention actual adult stars regularly streaming. And before anybody replies “and whats wrong with that” blah blah, parents still think of twitch as a place where kids can watch minecraft. Twitch is playing with fire here.

Parents are devoid of all responsibility then? I don't have a stance on the Twitch/softporn thing, but "think of the kids" is used too often for evil these days.

I blame my parents for allowing me to corrupt myself by watching the spice channel through the scrambler squiggles.

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Post by input_sh »

Jensson wrote: post #198
philwelch wrote: post #131

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Maybe I’m missing something about “hot tub streams”, but cute girls in bathing suits sitting in a hot tub doesn’t quite meet my definition of “adult content”. It might be unhealthy parasocial content for lonely boys, but it’s not porn.

They are porn ads, those girls makes their money on only fans and they stream to get guys to pay them for porn. You can see this for example, she isn't allowed to pay for normal ads since most networks doesn't allow porn ads, but streaming is a way for her to advertise: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/amouranth-reveals-her-on...

Okay but how is that a Twitch problem?

From what I know they can't link their OnlyFans directly on Twitch (they need at least one intermediary website) nor even acknowledge its existence directly on stream.

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Post by [deleted] »

stametseater wrote: post #100
yamtaddle wrote: post #75

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A channel I like is having to test various patterns of swearing and swear-bleeping to try to narrow down what exactly suddenly changed that wrecked their monetization, which had been fine for years and years. They can't just ask YouTube what they need to do to be OK again. It's really dumb. Also, creators on a platform that grew its original userbase through piracy and media re-mixes with little or no content-policin…

> Also, creators on a platform that grew its original userbase through piracy and media re-mixes with little or no content-policing now have to be extremely careful about even very clear-cut fair-use of commercial media Monetization is a big part of this problem. It is possible for something to be fair use and commercialized, but once you've commercialized it you're fighting an uphill battle to claim fair use.

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Post by ryandrake »

Sebb767 wrote: post #214
ryandrake wrote: post #144

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I honestly don't understand the mentality that drives someone to keep working after they've made, say, $100 million. Maybe that's why we're all not that person. Even if you're the most single-minded, driven person ever, once you get that much wealth you've pretty much won the game. You did it, you're done. The show's over. It's like continuing to play your Civilization game for "Just... One... More... Turn..." after…

> I honestly don't understand the mentality that drives someone to keep working after they've made, say, $100 million. Most people reading this site are in the 1% of the world and could easily retire to a lower cost of living area right now or after a few years of saving. They usually don't: Firstly, because the drive that gets you to earn that kind of money also keeps you going. If you're used to and can handle 80 h…

I don't think we're talking about the same group of people. A highly paid tech worker who makes, say $250K a year, and maybe has a little $800,000 retirement account? Sure, they could retire in Kazakhstan or something, but there's still something to work for (maybe they want to step up and retire in Thailand or heaven forbid the USA).

But if you've banked $100 million, that's a totally different world. You have wealth that grows by itself passively, and you'll never be able to spend it. You can live wherever you want in the world and never have to work, and neither will your offspring for multiple generations. Any work you do at that point is firmly in the "Play the video game after you won" territory.

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