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Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Post by philwelch »

vkou wrote: post #61
cinntaile wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazon doesn't want to get into the adult industry.

It also doesn't not want to get into it, because it could have banned hot tub streams, but chose to quarantine them instead. As sibling posts explained - it wants to be in a one-foot-in-one-foot-out sort of position on the question.

Maybe I’m missing something about “hot tub streams”, but cute girls in bathing suits sitting in a hot tub doesn’t quite meet my definition of “adult content”. It might be unhealthy parasocial content for lonely boys, but it’s not porn.

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Post by misssocrates »

jedberg wrote: post #87
tempsy wrote: post #55

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> This is the event that still required everyone to wear a mask late 2022 only after Twitch was guilted into it. Oh no, they bowed to people whose livelihoods depend on staying healthy and realized that masks actually do help when everyone wears them.

How so? There's no evidence for that with respect to respiratory viruses.

> Wearing masks in the community probably makes little or no difference to the outcome of influenza‐like illness (ILI)/COVID‐19 like illness compared to not wearing masks (risk ratio (RR) 0.95, 95% confidence interval (CI) 0.84 to 1.09; 9 trials, 276,917 participants; moderate‐certainty evidence. Wearing masks in the community probably makes little or no difference to the outcome of laboratory‐confirmed influenza/SARS‐CoV‐2 compared to not wearing masks (RR 1.01, 95% CI 0.72 to 1.42; 6 trials, 13,919 participants; moderate‐certainty evidence).

https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD...

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Post by spyke112 »

sleepybrett wrote: post #70
spyke112 wrote: post #45

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Make it a monthly payment like Netflix? Streaming is streaming if you ask me.

You can subscribe to individual creators on twitch. This removes advertising from that streamers stream only.

Really should be a monthly subscription, that will get shared by all creators based on minutes of view time, or some other metric. Then maybe gate it behind some artificial limit, so that only serious creators will get a cut. I mean Spotify can share profits between every single artist, why cant twitch do the same? It would benefit both the consumer, higher likelihood of subscribing, and also the creators. They could also keep running ads on a free tier. It’s not exactly rocket science.

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Post by Lev1a »

idconvict wrote: post #107
beebmam wrote: post #98

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Given that you have an issue with ads, how do you respond to the fact you can pay $5/month to subscribe to a specific streamer to avoid all ads? Would you prefer if there was a platform-level subscription level which allows you to avoid all platform-driven ads across all channels, similar to YouTube Premium, for example?

They already have a platform-level subscription. It's Twitch Turbo and costs ~$10/month. Removes all ads on the site. I don't think creators get any portion of it like with YouTube Premium though.

IIRC I heard years ago that Turbo "pays" the streamer for the non-watched ads which have been removed for the Turbo user, i.e. fractions of a cent, i.e. nothing. All it does is paying Twitch for doing fuck-all.

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Post by Lev1a »

capableweb wrote: post #104
jsheard wrote: post #81

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Indeed, browsing Kick right now shows gambling is the biggest category by far with 42k viewers. Chat streams are second with 6k viewers, and the most viewed (non-gambling) game has a mere 1.6k viewers. I can't imagine why anyone would stream games on there unless they're banned from Twitch.

Not knowing, understanding or having any experience of the "streaming" community of the internet. What is the purpose/fun with watching someone not just gamble as in playing poker or whatever for money, but slots specifically? Feels like watching someone rolling a dice by themselves, but with fancier graphics.

I imagine the answer to that would be one word:

Schadenfreude

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Post by philwelch »

tempsy wrote: post #85
prox wrote: post #62

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It’s not even close to softcore porn. I can go to any beach and see the same thing, or a nudie sauna, and that is hardly sexual. Hot is probably the right word. Well done if they make money from that I guess.

softcore porn is "softcore" because it doesn't involve nudity or explicit intercourse the fact wearing a bikini at the beach is not sexual does not mean streaming yourself wearing a bikini in a hot tub while making moaning noises is not softcore porn. the intention is what matters eg attract teenage simp boys.

Traditionally I think the line with softcore was that it didn’t directly show penetration or fluids.

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Post by runevault »

idconvict wrote: post #107
beebmam wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given that you have an issue with ads, how do you respond to the fact you can pay $5/month to subscribe to a specific streamer to avoid all ads? Would you prefer if there was a platform-level subscription level which allows you to avoid all platform-driven ads across all channels, similar to YouTube Premium, for example?

They already have a platform-level subscription. It's Twitch Turbo and costs ~$10/month. Removes all ads on the site. I don't think creators get any portion of it like with YouTube Premium though.

I thought they removed turbo for everyone outside Canada, or did they bring it back at some point?

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Post by bacchusracine »

jedberg wrote: post #87
tempsy wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> This is the event that still required everyone to wear a mask late 2022 only after Twitch was guilted into it. Oh no, they bowed to people whose livelihoods depend on staying healthy and realized that masks actually do help when everyone wears them.

>masks actually do help when everyone wears them.

Could I get a citation for this please? Just about every source I've seen has since admitted that masks did absolutely nothing for the purposes for which they were advised to be used.

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Post by minimaxir »

nemothekid wrote: post #126
minimaxir wrote: post #2

What has Twitch actually done new business-wise in the past 5-6 years? Every typical user still uses the same StreamLabs widgets and alerts for years without many new ones, and most of the streaming workflow improvements are upstream in OBS itself. I honestly pegged things like Twitch Plays Pokemon back in 2014 would be the future of Twitch, and Twitch did allow some developer tools for interactivity between players…

> I honestly pegged things like Twitch Plays Pokemon back in 2014 Most of the comments on Twitch strike me as pretty weird. If I look at Twitch their problem is that, as a business, they never really broke out of their gaming niche. It's strange to suggest that Twitch should have catered more to the audience that they had already captured. Not to say that there's anything wrong with that, but for a company that took…

> If I look at Twitch their problem is that, as a business, they never really broke out of their gaming niche.

At the least, Twitch has a de facto monopoly in the gaming niche, to the point that the only way YouTube/Facebook/Microsoft could compete at all was with exclusivity contracts, which didn't even work as it didn't bring other streamers to the platform.

Encouraging the development of highly interactive programs like TPP isn't gaming specific either.

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Post by quectophoton »

mcmcmc wrote: post #129
quectophoton wrote: post #94

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As one example, I can't even login to Twitch since a few months ago because "my browser is not supported". (EDIT to add: Tried with Firefox and Chromium, from both v3.17 and edge Alpine Linux repositories.) I don't know what kind of fingerprinting are they doing, but it's definitely not just user agent nor IP address nor browser version. I suspect they somehow detect that I'm using Alpine Linux (it's my main OS) and…

You didn't mention what browser you're using, seems like a key detail for "browser is not supported"

Neither Firefox nor Chromium work for me, from neither stable (v3.17) or edge Alpine Linux repositories. And back then when this started happening, I also could not login with Firefox from FreeBSD.

But I can login with Firefox from my Steam Deck without any problems.

I know musl libc has weird compatibility issues (e.g. Nvidia, Widevine, etc), but as far as I can see I have no other issues with the website; I can play streams, and I can see chat messages and stuff. It's only the login form that for some reason responds with an error when I try to login.

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