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Re: What happens when your phone is spying on you

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1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #85
senthil_rajasek wrote: post #28

I found this article very shallow. It covers only spyware that are installed when a device is physically compromised. I was hoping it would cover spy/malware that install remotely through many more infection vectors like clicking text messages. I guess NSO/Pegasus malware has this capability. I barely use any apps and would gladly settle for a flip phone... I value privacy more than the ability to order food through…

Flip phones are available. SBF has been issued with one under his latest conditions of release. Remember though, privacy comes at a cost. Thousands of parasitic "startups" that live off of VC, produce nothing for sale, have no profits and rely on surveillance to demonstrate speculative "value" might suffer or even "go out of business", "Big Tech" might not rake in billions per quarter for selling ad services, "tech j…

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Re: What happens when your phone is spying on you

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Post by Antiks99 »

salawat wrote: post #99
1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Flip phones are available. SBF has been issued with one under his latest conditions of release. Remember though, privacy comes at a cost. Thousands of parasitic "startups" that live off of VC, produce nothing for sale, have no profits and rely on surveillance to demonstrate speculative "value" might suffer or even "go out of business", "Big Tech" might not rake in billions per quarter for selling ad services, "tech j…

> As an "industry" it's vital that we maintain peoples' trust while we surveil them. Thanks. I puked a bit. Put a damn /s on that thing. If it was not in jest, seek help. You aren't thinking properly.

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Re: What happens when your phone is spying on you

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Post by Antiks99 »

chaxor wrote: post #55
senthil_rajasek wrote: post #28

I found this article very shallow. It covers only spyware that are installed when a device is physically compromised. I was hoping it would cover spy/malware that install remotely through many more infection vectors like clicking text messages. I guess NSO/Pegasus malware has this capability. I barely use any apps and would gladly settle for a flip phone... I value privacy more than the ability to order food through…

Most spyware is installed by the user themselves. It's typically called "security software" from your company, or the VPN they provide (which also includes additional software that backdoors your entire device).

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Re: What happens when your phone is spying on you

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Liquix wrote: post #46
senthil_rajasek wrote: post #28

I found this article very shallow. It covers only spyware that are installed when a device is physically compromised. I was hoping it would cover spy/malware that install remotely through many more infection vectors like clicking text messages. I guess NSO/Pegasus malware has this capability. I barely use any apps and would gladly settle for a flip phone... I value privacy more than the ability to order food through…

I was hoping it would raise the alarm regarding Google and Apple's overreaching, always-on data collection practices. 99% of people don't need to worry about an attacker gaining physical access to their unlocked device and installing an application. We as a society do need to worry about tech giants amassing enough data on us to gain an insurmountable AI-training-data advantage which makes them too useful as tools of…

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Re: What happens when your phone is spying on you

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Post by lisasays »

kramerger wrote: post #115
lisasays wrote: post #64

So what do people recommend for malware detection (at whatever degree of efficacy) on Androids these days? Yes I know what search engines are, but I'd appreciate curated / personal recommendations, please.

Nothing. Anyone recommending antivirus apps for your android is clueless and/or after your money.

Okay, I'm clueless. Can you condescend to explain why this is the case, and/or provide something informative to read about the subjective?

BTW I really am clueless, because I've avoided owning any kind of smartphone until now.

Re: What happens when your phone is spying on you

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Post by specialist »

eternityforest wrote: post #138
JohnFen wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The ability to revoke consent is an essential part of consent, in my view. > some privacy advocates seem to think that's still not enough. I am one of them. I think the GDPR is inadequate in many ways, but it's certainly a huge improvement over the nothing that existed prior, and it's much better than anything we have here in the US. But the things I think are inadequate about the GDPR still revolve around consent. I…

I guess it depends on how you view personal data. To me, it's just like any other data, licensing it to someone is no different than licensing the source code to something you wrote, if it's revokable the whole concept doesn't make sense, and you don't really own it so much as it's held in trust by the state. But it seems like some people see it as something really personal and special that inherently shouldn't be tr…

What's your position on the right to privacy?

Re: What happens when your phone is spying on you

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Post by labster »

specialist wrote: post #146
eternityforest wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess it depends on how you view personal data. To me, it's just like any other data, licensing it to someone is no different than licensing the source code to something you wrote, if it's revokable the whole concept doesn't make sense, and you don't really own it so much as it's held in trust by the state. But it seems like some people see it as something really personal and special that inherently shouldn't be tr…

What's your position on the right to privacy?

The right to privacy is alienable, like the right to party; it must be fought for.

Re: What happens when your phone is spying on you

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Post by diego_sandoval »

I would actually like to install a tracking/remote-control app on my own phone in case it gets stolen, but can't seem to find any app that satisfies my requirements.

I need it to be open source, not require Google Play Services and not connect to a hardcoded service, but allow me to phone home to an IP address/URL that I specify myself.

Basically, an SSH server configured with reverse tunneling, that instead of just giving me a shell, gives me a control panel to configure high-level features of Android.

Re: What happens when your phone is spying on you

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Post by eternityforest »

specialist wrote: post #146
eternityforest wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess it depends on how you view personal data. To me, it's just like any other data, licensing it to someone is no different than licensing the source code to something you wrote, if it's revokable the whole concept doesn't make sense, and you don't really own it so much as it's held in trust by the state. But it seems like some people see it as something really personal and special that inherently shouldn't be tr…

What's your position on the right to privacy?

It's a basic human right, same as right to free speech. Encryption and anonymity technology should be strongly protected and respected, and I support most of what the GDPR is doing.

It's just completely banning the choice to use nonprivate services I have an issue with.

Re: What happens when your phone is spying on you

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Post by marttt »

teddyh wrote: post #116
mjfl wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's because he was using sarcasm, which you failed to detect.

I probably failed because the quoted words were not actually quotes . I could understand a word like “value” being quoted sarcastically without a specific quote in mind, but the quoting of many other words and phrases were mystifying.

Try to replace OPs quotes with an appositive like so-called or so to say. "Big tech" = so-called Big Tech, "industry" = so-called industry etc. This way, the irony does make sense, especially when you read OPs earlier comments.
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