Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta
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Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta
#162They say performance on par to slightly better than Sublime Text, that's interesting, I like it when developers care about performance. Unfortunately, it is MacOS only, so I couldn't try. Performance turned me off from VSCode and brought me back to Sublime Text. VSCode is not that bad, and I use it occasionally, but the advantages it has over Sublime Text is not worth the performance penalty for me.
IME, Zed's real & perceived performance is way better than Sublime.
I was actually pretty surprised when we did our measurements, and would say those numbers don't match the perceived performance (oe the feed. I haven't experienced an app that feels more fluid for basic things like scrolling before Zed – Obviously I have bias, but that is my 2c!
Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta
#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
Only if you're trying to build for Windows.
No macOS is a horrible developer platform in general. The only thing that makes it remotely viable is the tireless efforts of the Homebrew project. I can't imagine thinking macOS is a good programmer OS
Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta
#164Hell of a license: ---- INVESTIGATIONS, MONITORING, & NO OBLIGATION TO PRE-SCREEN CONTENT. Zed may, but is not obligated to, investigate, monitor, pre-screen, remove, refuse, or review the Service and/or Content, including Your Content and User Content, at any time. By entering into the Agreement, you hereby provide your irrevocable consent to such monitoring. You acknowledge and agree that you have no expectation of…
Thanks for pointing this out. Our whole terms-of-service is just standard boilerplate provided by our lawyers, but this part doesn't really apply to Zed. Obviously, there's no "content moderation" for project code that you collaborate on with Zed. We'll look into adjusting this to make it clearer that we don't do anything remotely concerning or invasive.
Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta
#165I have no idea how this happened, but somehow after installing Zed, Zed now is the default editor for code files in my macOS (before, it was VS Code). And now I need to figure out wtf Zed did to undo it. Not cool.
This wasn't our intended behavior for this.
A team member just dug into our implementation of LSHandlerRank and it looks like we are using "Default". Apple's definition of the "Default" rank is this: "This app is an opener of files of this type; this value is also used if no rank is specified".
From our team member's investigation it looks like VSCode doesn't set any LSHandlerRank (which in theory from the definition above should be the same rank, but from your experience that doesn't seem correct.) Sublime uses uses "Alternate" as it's LSHandlerRank, which its definition is "this app is a secondary viewer of files of this type".
We will audit what other editors set and discuss if it makes sense to change the rank we are using.
Thanks for pointing this out.
Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta
#166Hell of a license: ---- INVESTIGATIONS, MONITORING, & NO OBLIGATION TO PRE-SCREEN CONTENT. Zed may, but is not obligated to, investigate, monitor, pre-screen, remove, refuse, or review the Service and/or Content, including Your Content and User Content, at any time. By entering into the Agreement, you hereby provide your irrevocable consent to such monitoring. You acknowledge and agree that you have no expectation of…
Thanks for pointing this out. Our whole terms-of-service is just standard boilerplate provided by our lawyers, but this part doesn't really apply to Zed. Obviously, there's no "content moderation" for project code that you collaborate on with Zed. We'll look into adjusting this to make it clearer that we don't do anything remotely concerning or invasive.
Never in my life have I seen such a boisterous "fuck you" in a legal document. Who are your lawyers, and what on Earth (or off Earth for that matter) are they smoking? In what alternate reality is this a "boilerplate" EULA?
I mean, holy shit.
Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta
#167To me it's a kinda distasteful design that despite being a graphical application, this is using monospaced font for the titlebar, tab headers, file tree, etc. Looks odd on Mac. In general Zed seems to be at a decent starting point though. Aside from its "multiplayer editing" aspect, it comes across like it has been very heavily influenced in terms of scope by Sublime.
Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta
#168Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta
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For lack of a better term, I've been a full-stack programmer for 27 years. I ran Linux on the desktop for 19 years. I've run MacOS for about 8 now. And, always, Windows, of course, because companies . I've developed extensively for PHP, VB, C, ASP, VB.NET, C#, some Python, a tiny bit of Java, and (my fave) Ruby on Rails. My main projects of the last 10 years use a large C# program which I compile to run on Mac, Linux…
> When I've wanted a "container," I've used a real VM. I mean, sure, that's great for you. Maybe you've just never visited a block where you can't reasonably use a VM to replace containers, such as a good amount of shops where local environments approximate production (i.e. containers). > I just installed Docker desktop last week All I can say is, "good luck!" DD is by far the worst container runtime for MacOS.
Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta
#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
No macOS is a horrible developer platform in general. The only thing that makes it remotely viable is the tireless efforts of the Homebrew project. I can't imagine thinking macOS is a good programmer OS
I can't imagine not. Productivity on Windows is atrocious - I can't even launch an app without seeing an ad. And what is this Cortana and why does she want to help me so much? It works all ways. Let people like what they like. No one is forcing you to do anything on a Mac.