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Re: What happens when your phone is spying on you

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Post by zw123456 »

tcbawo wrote: post #47
zw123456 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a Galaxy S21 5G with Android 13 I also changed my pin because I suspect he saw me entering it, but when this occurred he was at the other end of town so it would have had to have been some sort of remote access. I am thinking maybe phone link, which I had been using with my laptop, I disabled that. It was definitely not autocomplete because he said something that only he would have know regarding the message I…

Have you ever logged into messages.google.com?

No, never. HN is pretty much the only social media I use, the rest of it is not really my thing.

Re: What happens when your phone is spying on you

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Post by okamiueru »

mcsniff wrote: post #92

Ctrl-F "Graphene". Nobody has mentioned GrapheneOS. GrapheneOS and a Pixel phone are about as private and secure as you can get whilst maintaining good usability of a smartphone in 2023. Highly recommended, no affiliation.

How does it compare to CalyxOS?

Re: What happens when your phone is spying on you

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Post by [deleted] »

867-5309 wrote: post #82
nichohel wrote: post #73

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What do you mean by "Most privacy advocates probably do plenty of things I would be perfectly happy to see made illegal"? Can you give some examples of what you mean by things you want to see made illegal?

eating meat, burning coal, owning pets, paying taxes, cycling, sunbathing, crochet, wearing crocks with socks, shitposting..

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Re: What happens when your phone is spying on you

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Post by JohnFen »

eternityforest wrote: post #70
YeahNO wrote: post #62

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You would think the panic over TikTok spying would illuminate the problem with apps having carte-blanche access to your personal data 24/7. There is nothing that the TikTok app does that any other app cannot also do. It seems nobody wants to make that connection. There should be real protections for consumers to prevent ANY application from slurping up this data, and I don't mean just a disclosure or system setting t…

Most privacy advocates probably do plenty of things I would be perfectly happy to see made illegal, but we don't just ban them because we don't want a complete dictatorship of one segment of the population over everyone else, and because it seems the people realize it would cause problems for some people, and we need to be careful to find suitable replacements before we ban things. A lot of the tech I imagine you are…

Most privacy advocates I know revolve around the concept of "informed consent". The idea isn't to ban technologies because they can be abused, it's to stop the abuse.

The guiding principle for when that line is crossed is whether or not the affected person was completely and accurately informed about what is going to happen, and that they have affirmatively given their consent for it to happen.

Re: What happens when your phone is spying on you

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Post by scarface74 »

SoftTalker wrote: post #61
scarface74 wrote: post #57

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I know a couple of small restaurant owners. Even ones that don’t go through UberEats or GrubHub that use SaaS restaurant software that also come with a white labeled restaurant specific app that accepts Apple Pay (standard credit card fees - not 30%) and other payment methods. They actually prefer it.

Weird. The small places here (I'm thinking chinese take-out, for example) take cash only, order tickets are on paper, they don't deliver, and seem to be thriving. Have the Uber Eats and other tech middlemen started taking such a big slice of the profit that it's not worth it? Having worked in a restaurant, if someone took 30% of my gross it certainly would have been all of my profit and then some.

I just said the opposite. Restaurants apps do not pay 30% even when going through the App Store. It’s a physical good and even if they do accept Apple Pay, they get charged standard credit card processing fees - $0.25 + 2-3% of the amount.

I said they do not use GrubHub. They have their own system run as SaaS. The company they use takes care of the POS system, merchant accounts, and a white labeled app just for their store.

Re: What happens when your phone is spying on you

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Post by hb0ss »

867-5309 wrote: post #82
nichohel wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean by "Most privacy advocates probably do plenty of things I would be perfectly happy to see made illegal"? Can you give some examples of what you mean by things you want to see made illegal?

eating meat, burning coal, owning pets, paying taxes, cycling, sunbathing, crochet, wearing crocks with socks, shitposting..

Cycling… says the corn syrup addicted American

Re: What happens when your phone is spying on you

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Post by teddyh »

1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #85
senthil_rajasek wrote: post #28

I found this article very shallow. It covers only spyware that are installed when a device is physically compromised. I was hoping it would cover spy/malware that install remotely through many more infection vectors like clicking text messages. I guess NSO/Pegasus malware has this capability. I barely use any apps and would gladly settle for a flip phone... I value privacy more than the ability to order food through…

Flip phones are available. SBF has been issued with one under his latest conditions of release. Remember though, privacy comes at a cost. Thousands of parasitic "startups" that live off of VC, produce nothing for sale, have no profits and rely on surveillance to demonstrate speculative "value" might suffer or even "go out of business", "Big Tech" might not rake in billions per quarter for selling ad services, "tech j…

Your quoting of certain words seem odd.

https://prestersperspective.blogspot.com/p/schizophrenia-ran...

Re: What happens when your phone is spying on you

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Post by salawat »

1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #85
senthil_rajasek wrote: post #28

I found this article very shallow. It covers only spyware that are installed when a device is physically compromised. I was hoping it would cover spy/malware that install remotely through many more infection vectors like clicking text messages. I guess NSO/Pegasus malware has this capability. I barely use any apps and would gladly settle for a flip phone... I value privacy more than the ability to order food through…

Flip phones are available. SBF has been issued with one under his latest conditions of release. Remember though, privacy comes at a cost. Thousands of parasitic "startups" that live off of VC, produce nothing for sale, have no profits and rely on surveillance to demonstrate speculative "value" might suffer or even "go out of business", "Big Tech" might not rake in billions per quarter for selling ad services, "tech j…

> As an "industry" it's vital that we maintain peoples' trust while we surveil them.

Thanks. I puked a bit. Put a damn /s on that thing.

If it was not in jest, seek help. You aren't thinking properly.

Re: What happens when your phone is spying on you

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Post by eternityforest »

A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #77
eternityforest wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most privacy advocates probably do plenty of things I would be perfectly happy to see made illegal, but we don't just ban them because we don't want a complete dictatorship of one segment of the population over everyone else, and because it seems the people realize it would cause problems for some people, and we need to be careful to find suitable replacements before we ban things. A lot of the tech I imagine you are…

I think part of the issue is that it is too affordable. The whole free content, free email, free infrastructure got us into current mess to begin with and since advertising was the only place that paid, now it is a part of the landscape. But on that front, pendulum may be swinging the other way. And privacy itself is one of those terms that can easily led into a very broad discussion unless it is not clearly defined…

Well, I sure don't ever want to losing half my day to forgetting things, being constantly lost, and losing my keys and wallet constantly.

As far as effects on me, getting rid of modern tech would already be getting close to the authoritarian nightmare they talk about, far more than basically any of the laws other people complain about.

If the effects are harmful enough to regulate, it's the same kind of conversation as cigarettes and gas engines and a million other things that we put varying levels of restrictions on but don't ban.

Going after spy tech with more force than we go after everything else just seems like government enforced luddism.

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