How do people intend to use these hybrids in server roles? It would take some extra sophistication compared to a uniform CPU architecture. For example, in low-latency service you would not want your netrx IRQs served from efficiency cores. But you can imagine lots of crud these cores could handle aside from main serving path. I'd be tempted to boot them with isolcpus parameter.
Hetzner launches three new dedicated servers
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I really wish I could get dedicated hardware for somewhere close to that price here in Asia. It seems like Hetzner is the only company in the world offering these kind of prices, right? What's the catch?
The biggest catch is that you're getting more desktop-grade hardware than server-grade (notice Intel's i series instead of Xeon, non-ECC RAM). Doesn't make a lot of difference for the vast majority of use cases, but something to keep in mind. You can get server-grade hardware from them, but then the pricing difference isn't so significant when compared to other providers.
i really wonder how they are housing the desktop grade hardware. im so used to rack and stack servers (1U/2U), but do you really need that big of a chassis for a desktop cpu, a couple ram dimm's and some ssd? what are you're thoughts?
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> Nobody seriously uses AWS/GCP/Azure to have a couple VMs or dedicated servers alone. I think you're seriously underestimating the amount of cloud customers that do a simple lift and shift.
I've worked for at least 3 companies using cloud services that could have hosted what they were doing on a handful of boxes for a fraction of the cost. (The most egregious was a system peaking at maybe 5 hits a second during the month-end busy period living in multiple pods on a GCP Kubernetes cluster.)
Just switching from Ruby to Crystal - basically the same syntax - will save you at least 3-4 times the money if not 10x in some cases. Not talking about a good Nginx/OpenResty loadbalancing and utilizing Varnish, Redis etc.
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#254I have been working in the industry since 20 years and i have not a single bad word to loose about Hetzner. Their Service has always been impeccable and their servers just run. I have been running k8s clusters on hetzner for quite some time now and the flexibility for the price is exactly what i expect from a hoster! Now with this addition Hetzner closes another gap that made projects spends thousands more on enterpr…
How did you setup the k8s cluster? Is it running on bare metal or VMs?
both actually! it depends on what kind of workload you are running but for any kind of web application that "just" wants high availability the VMs are more than enough.
They do provide a csi driver for kubernetes for their blockstorage and private networking for both too.
you can even have the masters of VMS and the nodes on bare metal
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#255- AX52: AMD Ryzen 7 7700 / 64 GB / 2x1 TB NVMe - From 59€ [1] - EX44: Intel Core i5-13500 / 64 GB / 2x512 GB NVMe - From 44€ [2] - EX101: Intel Core i9-13900 / 64 GB / 2x1.92 TB NVMe - From 84€ [3] [1] https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ax52 [2] https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ex44 [3] https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ex101
And they also killed AX91..
Re: Hetzner launches three new dedicated servers
#256I have been working in the industry since 20 years and i have not a single bad word to loose about Hetzner. Their Service has always been impeccable and their servers just run. I have been running k8s clusters on hetzner for quite some time now and the flexibility for the price is exactly what i expect from a hoster! Now with this addition Hetzner closes another gap that made projects spends thousands more on enterpr…
Not my experience. Hetzner is really a discount provider, though they may have gotten better. I used to work for a team that rented dozens of servers from them and we had disk failures almost every other week, which required creating a support ticket and asking them to swap out the drive so we could rebuild the RAID array. They used regular SATA consumer drives and they were probably pretty old or refurbished or some…
It's up to you what type of harddrive you order in your servers.
So I guess you can blame your own team for ordering consumer sata?
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Re: Hetzner launches three new dedicated servers
#258I have been working in the industry since 20 years and i have not a single bad word to loose about Hetzner. Their Service has always been impeccable and their servers just run. I have been running k8s clusters on hetzner for quite some time now and the flexibility for the price is exactly what i expect from a hoster! Now with this addition Hetzner closes another gap that made projects spends thousands more on enterpr…
You must be really lucky then :) My experience from ~2006 to 2014/15 (on and off, different companies, many different servers) was mostly bad, literal "you get what you pay for", with disks in dedicated servers dying left and right.
I've only become a customer again since their vps cloud offering and I've actually been recommending that because it has been flawless for me for years.
Re: Hetzner launches three new dedicated servers
#259Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not my experience. Hetzner is really a discount provider, though they may have gotten better. I used to work for a team that rented dozens of servers from them and we had disk failures almost every other week, which required creating a support ticket and asking them to swap out the drive so we could rebuild the RAID array. They used regular SATA consumer drives and they were probably pretty old or refurbished or some…
It's up to you what type of harddrive you order in your servers. So I guess you can blame your own team for ordering consumer sata?
Not sure what time frame we're talking here but I don't even remember there being any choice of disk.
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#260Recently moved some workloads from GCP to a dedicated Hetzner box with 12900k, 128GB ram and 2TB NVME raid. This thing SCREAMS, running e.g Postgres with the same capacity in GCP would probbably cost > $1k/mo. Hetzner takes around 120 EUR. Also the bandwidht is like 10x cheaper with much larger free tier.
I think most times the horror stories and complexities of DevOps from the past (which likely paved the path for convenient cloud providers) is what keeps people away from running their own servers. That being said, I run much smaller projects and servers and have not worked at a scale that really requires heavy workloads that generates thousands of monthly bills at GCP. So I think most devs being conditioned to start…
Absolutely. I'm pretty new to infra and I learned in our big company AWS environment. I've dabbled a bit with home servers and stuff but I have no idea how to manage a bare metal host "properly".