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Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know

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Post by mac-chaffee »

JonChesterfield wrote: post #40
FlyingSnake wrote: post #31

> Start publishing images to GitHub And when GitHub starts similar shenanigans, move out to where? I am old enough to know the we can't trust BigTech and their unpredictable behaviors. Eventually we need to start a Codeberg like alternative using Prototype funds to be self reliant. 1: https://codeberg.org/ 2: https://prototypefund.de/

We need to use a distributed system instead of a centralised one. Probably built on a source control system that can handle that.

May want to keep your eye on dragonfly, a P2P image distribution protocol: https://d7y.io/docs/

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Post by voytec »

jon-wood wrote: post #13

Docker the tool has been a massive benefit to software development, every now and then I have a moan about the hassle of getting something bootstrapped to run on Docker, but it's still worlds better than the old ways of managing dependencies and making sure everyone on a project is aligned on what versions of things are installed. Unfortunately Docker the company appears to be dying, this is the latest in a long line…

> they can't work out how to build a business around what is at it's core a nice UI for Linux containers.

It's quite a shame (for the lack of better wording) that the better, simpler and more intuitive a free product is, the harder it is to make money from it by selling support.

I think that the best way to go from here, would be building companion products and supporting the whole ecosystem. By companion products, I mean other standalone apps/services, not just GUI for existing one.

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Post by RobotToaster »

jszymborski wrote: post #15

Has there been any work on making these centralised public repositories distributed?

I was just thinking this seems like an ideal use case for IPFS or bittorrent, since most users will already be running on a server.

It doesn't seem unreasonable to have the client automatically pin/seed the container it pulls.

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Post by tyingq »

anonymoushn wrote: post #102
tyingq wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course, I can do a lot of record revenue and earnings selling five dollar bills for $4. I'm curious what a path to profit would look like...is this kind of squeeze the only way to get there?

that would make you negative one dollar of earnings per sale

I agree given the usual definition of "net earnings", but private companies often represent earnings in creative ways that exclude obvious costs (hey Uber!).

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Post by jon-wood »

pmarreck wrote: post #60
jon-wood wrote: post #13

Docker the tool has been a massive benefit to software development, every now and then I have a moan about the hassle of getting something bootstrapped to run on Docker, but it's still worlds better than the old ways of managing dependencies and making sure everyone on a project is aligned on what versions of things are installed. Unfortunately Docker the company appears to be dying, this is the latest in a long line…

> worlds better than the old ways of managing dependencies and making sure everyone on a project is aligned on what versions of things are installed. And Nix is worlds better than even this . Imagine!

I’m yet to be entirely sold on that, mostly because I think Nix the language isn’t anywhere near as accessible as Dockerfiles, but I’ll be the first one cheering if Nix does manage to take over.

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Post by windexh8er »

anonymoushn wrote: post #102
tyingq wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course, I can do a lot of record revenue and earnings selling five dollar bills for $4. I'm curious what a path to profit would look like...is this kind of squeeze the only way to get there?

that would make you negative one dollar of earnings per sale

OPs point is that revenue is easy, profit is not.

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Post by nrvn »

After Docker announced rate limiting for the hub this was an anticipated move. Was just the matter of time.

The only recommendation to everyone: move away or duplicate.

One of the strategies I am yet to test is the synchronization between gitlab and github for protected branches and tags and relying on their container registries. Thus (at least) you provide multiple ways to serve public images for free and with relatively low hassle.

And then for open source projects’ maintainers: provide a one command way to reproducibly build images from scratch to serve them from wherever users want. In production I don’t want to depend on public registries at all and if anything I must be able to build images on my own and expect them to be the same as their publicly built counterparts. Mirroring images is the primary way, reproducing is the fallback option and also helps to verify the integrity.

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Post by dijit »

prepend wrote: post #93

Is there any drop in replacement for dockerhub? I’m concerned about all my random oss containers (like ruby-latest) that may come from orgs that aren’t able or willing to pay. Is there another container hosting site?

You could always try mirror.gcr.io

https://cloud.google.com/container-registry/docs/pulling-cac...

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Post by pjmlp »

jon-wood wrote: post #13

Docker the tool has been a massive benefit to software development, every now and then I have a moan about the hassle of getting something bootstrapped to run on Docker, but it's still worlds better than the old ways of managing dependencies and making sure everyone on a project is aligned on what versions of things are installed. Unfortunately Docker the company appears to be dying, this is the latest in a long line…

It packaged containers that we already knew from other UNIX and mainframe/micros systems.
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