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Re: Live-caption glasses let deaf people read conversations [video]

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Post by elliekelly »

phailhaus wrote: post #66
elliekelly wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect (and hope) you had no ill intent but this comment is really ignorant. There is a terrible history of Deaf people being discriminated against and forced to “lip read” rather than communicate through ASL. And by “forced” I mean they were more or less mentally and physically tortured into compliance. Your comment not only perpetuates this totally false narrative that there’s a “problem” with ASL but it makes i…

Unfortunately, there are very few Deaf people, so there is no world in which everyone learns ASL just in case they meet a Deaf person. It just doesn't scale, and so what you end up with is isolating them even further. The best approach is to bridge the gap: similar glasses can be used by hearing folks to translate sign language, and it theoretically generalizes to all foreign languages.

Check out that first link about Martha’s Vineyard ;)

Re: Live-caption glasses let deaf people read conversations [video]

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Post by generalizations »

giraffe_lady wrote: post #60
generalizations wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the problem with logic; it works both ways. If you were the ignorant one perpetuating the falsehood, how would you know unless I told you?

Wait are you implying you think the main way people learn things is by spewing bullshit on the internet until someone contests it? Read a book ya dingus. wikipedia. christ.

That makes no sense. And I have less confidence than before that you know what you're talking about.

Re: Live-caption glasses let deaf people read conversations [video]

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Post by Kalium »

lazyeye wrote: post #64
autoexec wrote: post #62

What are the privacy/security issues with this? Does this mean every conversation a person wearing these has (or that occurs within earshot) is being collected and harvested by someone? Will the AR be used to insert ads into people's conversations or plaster images of ads all over the place? Will certain words or phrases be automatically censored? This is cool tech, that could be used to help people, but it comes wit…

Completely agree. There seems to be such a gap in the market for privacy-first hardware but very few companies are doing anything.

The key question is always a painfully simple one: how much are people willing to pay as a privacy-first premium?

The answers to this determine everything. Treating privacy-first as the moral and ethical default we should expect everyone to start from is a wonderful idea, rooted in compassion, kindness, and a foundational respect for human rights. It has also been an abject failure to date.

We should not expect the future to be different unless we are willing to be realistic about the economics at work. Otherwise the market gap will remain in the realm of the wonderfully hypothetical forever.

Re: Live-caption glasses let deaf people read conversations [video]

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Post by OmahaBoy69 »

lazyeye wrote: post #64
autoexec wrote: post #62

What are the privacy/security issues with this? Does this mean every conversation a person wearing these has (or that occurs within earshot) is being collected and harvested by someone? Will the AR be used to insert ads into people's conversations or plaster images of ads all over the place? Will certain words or phrases be automatically censored? This is cool tech, that could be used to help people, but it comes wit…

Completely agree. There seems to be such a gap in the market for privacy-first hardware but very few companies are doing anything.

Shameless plug:

https://github.com/TeamOpenSmartGlasses/OpenSourceSmartGlass...

ASR is done locally on the user's phone.

Re: Live-caption glasses let deaf people read conversations [video]

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Post by Rustwerks »

autoexec wrote: post #62

What are the privacy/security issues with this? Does this mean every conversation a person wearing these has (or that occurs within earshot) is being collected and harvested by someone? Will the AR be used to insert ads into people's conversations or plaster images of ads all over the place? Will certain words or phrases be automatically censored? This is cool tech, that could be used to help people, but it comes wit…

The implications are approximately the same as https://www.amazon.com/tape-recorder/s?k=tape+recorder except with compute power to make storage and search more convenient. Except that the glasses/app don't save anything by default nor do they need to use the internet.

I suppose it would be a nice feature if they saved all of your conversations for later? The translations are too imperfect for any legal matter use.

Re: Live-caption glasses let deaf people read conversations [video]

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Post by zoklet-enjoyer »

NovaDudely wrote: post #61
zoklet-enjoyer wrote: post #42

My Pixel phone can do this. Why are the glasses so expensive and bulky?

1. They don't have the same kind of budget as Google to get the scale down as effectively. 2. If these are the ones I have heard about before, all the speech to text is done on the device not in the cloud. This is for privacy reasons. Means it needs a bit more bulk for the gear to work.

These glasses are connected to a phone app

Re: Live-caption glasses let deaf people read conversations [video]

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Post by Vrondi »

Rustwerks wrote: post #75
autoexec wrote: post #62

What are the privacy/security issues with this? Does this mean every conversation a person wearing these has (or that occurs within earshot) is being collected and harvested by someone? Will the AR be used to insert ads into people's conversations or plaster images of ads all over the place? Will certain words or phrases be automatically censored? This is cool tech, that could be used to help people, but it comes wit…

The implications are approximately the same as https://www.amazon.com/tape-recorder/s?k=tape+recorder except with compute power to make storage and search more convenient. Except that the glasses/app don't save anything by default nor do they need to use the internet. I suppose it would be a nice feature if they saved all of your conversations for later? The translations are too imperfect for any legal matter use.

Bad choice of example, because a tape recorder has no network connection and requires some effort to capture into a digital format that can easily be shared on a network. Unlike tape recorders, recent digital devices and apps often harvest your info behind the scenes.

Re: Live-caption glasses let deaf people read conversations [video]

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Post by YurgenJurgensen »

elliekelly wrote: post #21
generalizations wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with ASL compared to lip reading is that it's a form of self-segregation, limiting the deaf person to primarily communicating only with other people who know ASL. If these glasses are effective, it could help bridge that gap.

I suspect (and hope) you had no ill intent but this comment is really ignorant. There is a terrible history of Deaf people being discriminated against and forced to “lip read” rather than communicate through ASL. And by “forced” I mean they were more or less mentally and physically tortured into compliance. Your comment not only perpetuates this totally false narrative that there’s a “problem” with ASL but it makes i…

There’s nothing inherent to the world we have built that’s stopping deaf people using the Internet in their own languages. Yet there’s no ASL Wikipedia. Why not?

Re: Live-caption glasses let deaf people read conversations [video]

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Post by primax »

autoexec wrote: post #62

What are the privacy/security issues with this? Does this mean every conversation a person wearing these has (or that occurs within earshot) is being collected and harvested by someone? Will the AR be used to insert ads into people's conversations or plaster images of ads all over the place? Will certain words or phrases be automatically censored? This is cool tech, that could be used to help people, but it comes wit…

I don't see how this is inherently worse than mobile phones, which are carried by everyone in the developed world all the time.
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