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Re: Live-caption glasses let deaf people read conversations [video]

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This is the sort of thing I expected Google Glass to be able to do. But Google apparently lacks sufficient imagination, so they just unceremoniously canned it. Really hope this takes off.

I was so excited for the possibilities of AR when I first heard about Google Glass. I imagined navigating foreign cities with signs auto-translated to English, turn by turn directions, translated subtitles, etc

Re: Live-caption glasses let deaf people read conversations [video]

#52

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I think you're misunderstanding the parent poster: You don't have to be intentionally hostile to perpetuate harmful and ignorant falsehoods. In fact the parent poster states they don't believe you're intentionally perpetuating ignorance. But, it's reasonable for someone to firmly rebut harmful ignorance in a manner, even if that level of firmness doesn't match your self-perception of your ignorance.

Which of us is ignorantly perpetuating a falsehood? It's important to maintain civil dialog until the truth is discovered. Edit: got annoyed.

> Which of us is ignorantly perpetuating a falsehood?

lmao it is absolutely you that's what we're trying to tell you

Re: Live-caption glasses let deaf people read conversations [video]

#53
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I have a different use case, involving wearing them in the house: listen to what my girlfriend says, use some ML to analyze whether I need to know it and if so, put it on the display. She has a different "speech mode" than I: she speaks while I'm reading or washing the dishes or whatever, and sometimes it's to herself, sometimes to Siri, and sometimes it's something she wants me to know.

There is a simple wetware solution, which is that she learns to say your name before saying something she wants you to know.

That would still require him to listen to his girlfriend talk. With all the technological innovation available today, nobody should have to listen to their girlfriends talk.

Re: Live-caption glasses let deaf people read conversations [video]

#54

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Which of us is ignorantly perpetuating a falsehood? It's important to maintain civil dialog until the truth is discovered. Edit: got annoyed.

The poster in question said you were ignorant and linked to multiple places to give you more context. edited: the below sections refers to something that has been edited out I understand that it might feel harsh, but to me, it looks like you're just being corrected and rebutted just like you said you'd be open to.

I did read the links. And my response incorporated what I'd understood from those. I was actually kinda curious how the parent would respond to the analogy with foreign travel.

Rebuttals aren't just one-and-done. You have to be able to actually defend your position, and that requires a lot more than just one statement.

Re: Live-caption glasses let deaf people read conversations [video]

#55

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Which of us is ignorantly perpetuating a falsehood? It's important to maintain civil dialog until the truth is discovered. Edit: got annoyed.

> Which of us is ignorantly perpetuating a falsehood? lmao it is absolutely you that's what we're trying to tell you

That's the problem with logic; it works both ways. If you were the ignorant one perpetuating the falsehood, how would you know unless I told you?

Re: Live-caption glasses let deaf people read conversations [video]

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Only being able to see ASL is different from speaking a different language – it's still English. Not being able to hear is more like not being able to read. It's the same language you already know, but you're missing out on one of the primary ways people use it.

ASL is based on French, so the structure is completely different.

ASL is not based on french either. It's related to LSF, the sign language used in france, but that also isn't based on french. The modern sign languages emerged among deaf populations and have completely different grammar and morphology from the spoken languages of the cultures surrounding their origins.

Re: Live-caption glasses let deaf people read conversations [video]

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Very cool, especially for people who lose their hearing later in life. For other deaf people it's important to remember that written english is not a form of their native sign language¹, so this would be like (because it is) reading captions in a second language. Still potentially useful but with more limitations. Not that there's necessarily a technological way around those limitations either. ¹ Afaik this applies t…

It is true and something more people should understand that ASL is not a signed version English, but most ASL speakers are pretty much bilingual. They are taught to read English, and most places also encourage learning to speak English, generally with speech-language pathologists, though some in the community are understandably reluctant.

Oral vs. sign is a big ongoing debate in the deaf education world. Different schools have different schools of thought.

Re: Live-caption glasses let deaf people read conversations [video]

#58
Reading the comments here, I think people are missing how many people are losing hearing while aging and how alienating it is. Even if it only works with one speaker at a time, it could mean a massive quality of life improvement for a large and growing share of the population.

Sure it won’t solve the issues faced by the deaf community but that’s only a tiny portion of the people handicapped by difficulty hearing.

Re: Live-caption glasses let deaf people read conversations [video]

#59

I hope (reatively immature) solutions like this will not be used as an excuse to remove accessible infrastructure from the world (e.g. captions at the cinema, live subtitles at the theatre, text displays on public transport).

There is a huge population group that I am hoping will demand and make accessibility much more refined. Everything from the size of text to lighting levels to subtitles

Which group is that? Disabled people, or their allies, or someone else?

Re: Live-caption glasses let deaf people read conversations [video]

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> Which of us is ignorantly perpetuating a falsehood? lmao it is absolutely you that's what we're trying to tell you

That's the problem with logic; it works both ways. If you were the ignorant one perpetuating the falsehood, how would you know unless I told you?

Wait are you implying you think the main way people learn things is by spewing bullshit on the internet until someone contests it? Read a book ya dingus. wikipedia. christ.
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