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Russian Assets Reportedly Seized at Baikonur Cosmodrome by Kazakh Authorities

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Re: Russian Assets Reportedly Seized at Baikonur Cosmodrome by Kazakh Authorities

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Post by saiya-jin »

medo-bear wrote: post #41
pk-protect-ai wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> Russian folk are the slaves to their rulers with a long history and indoctrinated brains racist much?

Being russian is not a race, just a passport type. They have a lot of blonde blue eyed people on the west (courtesy of vikings raping and killing those areas for centuries), brown, black haired, asian in the east (courtesy of mongols doing exactly the same), typical muslim visage on the south. Basically all mixtures apart from Africans.

Also, being russian is sort of lifestyle and comes with certain mindset, as internet memes documented darn too well in past decades.

As for OP's remark, its harsh but not incorrect, same happened to most enslaved nations. Unless freedom was won by bloody mass revolution and whole movememnt had some momentum, tribes and nations who suddenly gained freedom know very little what to actually do with it, and mess up quite a few things in transition. I've seen it first hand in eastern Europe, as soon as russians moved away from their decades long enslaving occupation.

Re: Russian Assets Reportedly Seized at Baikonur Cosmodrome by Kazakh Authorities

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Post by nradov »

qikInNdOutReply wrote: post #19

Thats what happens, when all you got to hold the band together is terror instead of soft power. Everyone just quits at the first sign of weakness.

Yes, hopefully some of the federated republics will start civil wars to break away from the Russian empire. Continue the disintegration process that started in 1991.

Re: Russian Assets Reportedly Seized at Baikonur Cosmodrome by Kazakh Authorities

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Post by WeylandYutani »

tokai wrote: post #56
nradov wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many years ago they ran a successful space program with no chips at all.

No they didn't. The Soviet Union did.

And the USSR actually traded with the West. Made tons of money selling oil, gas and grain. Putin's actions are devoid of economic logic.

Re: Russian Assets Reportedly Seized at Baikonur Cosmodrome by Kazakh Authorities

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Post by oaiey »

nradov wrote: post #62
qikInNdOutReply wrote: post #19

Thats what happens, when all you got to hold the band together is terror instead of soft power. Everyone just quits at the first sign of weakness.

Yes, hopefully some of the federated republics will start civil wars to break away from the Russian empire. Continue the disintegration process that started in 1991.

Hoping that a nuclear power breaks apart is a nightmare. This is true for states like Pakistan but when you have a stockpile in the thousands and a nuclear logistical distribution like Russia it is nearly guarantee that we have several (terroristic) nuclear explosions over the next decades and probably half a dozen rogue states more.

And do not assume that this is a peaceful transition. Putin is very much concerned about the integrity of Russia.

Re: Russian Assets Reportedly Seized at Baikonur Cosmodrome by Kazakh Authorities

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Post by _joel »

pestatije wrote: post #42
smcin wrote: post #23

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Baikonur is 45.62° N, 63.31° E Vostochny Cosmodrome, (Tsiolkovsky, Amur Oblast) is 51.85° N, 128.35° E. 550 miles west of Sakhalin Island and the Sea of Japan.

51° N is like London...not the best latitude for launching to space

Got to love those dog-leg manouevres and a dashing of extra fuel :)

Re: Russian Assets Reportedly Seized at Baikonur Cosmodrome by Kazakh Authorities

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Post by Retric »

WeylandYutani wrote: post #64
tokai wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No they didn't. The Soviet Union did.

And the USSR actually traded with the West. Made tons of money selling oil, gas and grain. Putin's actions are devoid of economic logic.

The political logic works even if Russia’s economy tanks he can point to people outside the country as scapegoats. If Russia had normal trade relations with other countries and everything was in shambles then the only blame would be internal.

The crazy thing is their population was crashing so fast adding territory for the people is more important than adding territory for the natural resources.

Re: Russian Assets Reportedly Seized at Baikonur Cosmodrome by Kazakh Authorities

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Post by medo-bear »

saiya-jin wrote: post #61
medo-bear wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Russian folk are the slaves to their rulers with a long history and indoctrinated brains racist much?

Being russian is not a race, just a passport type. They have a lot of blonde blue eyed people on the west (courtesy of vikings raping and killing those areas for centuries), brown, black haired, asian in the east (courtesy of mongols doing exactly the same), typical muslim visage on the south. Basically all mixtures apart from Africans. Also, being russian is sort of lifestyle and comes with certain mindset, as inter…

lol this is so stupid. being russian is as much an ethnicity as it is a nationality. if you make derisive prejudicial comments about an ethnic group that is racism

Re: Russian Assets Reportedly Seized at Baikonur Cosmodrome by Kazakh Authorities

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Post by vincnetas »

chii wrote: post #48
pk-protect-ai wrote: post #31

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I do not believe russians will want or need to get into space until 2050, because the economy of this country is screwed and electronics tech-stack is dependent on global market to deliver required chips... Needless to say the window of opportunity to receive the electronic components is closing. They can't run a space program on gray market deliveries.

They can run one where china supplies the required components.

Last i heard, china is also being limited in acquiring advanced electronics :

  On October 7, the Biden administration unveiled a sweeping set of export controls that ban Chinese companies from buying advanced chips and chip-making equipment without a license. The rule also restricts the ability of “US persons” — including American citizens or green card holders — to provide support for the “development or production” of chips at certain manufacturing facilities in China.
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