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Russian Assets Reportedly Seized at Baikonur Cosmodrome by Kazakh Authorities

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Re: Russian Assets Reportedly Seized at Baikonur Cosmodrome by Kazakh Authorities

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Post by labster »

vinaypai wrote: post #11
vbezhenar wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sources are sketchy. Those sources I've found report that Kazakhstani bailiffs put an arrest to Russian property (basically they can't move it out of the country) and forbade some manager to leave country as well. I'm not sure if English meaning of word seizure includes those actions, I thought that seizure is more like expropriation and that's not what happening here. I think that's not serious. It's either some pol…

> turning away from it seems like an economic suicide On the other hand, not turning away from it might be literal suicide.

Nah, we in NATO don’t blame landlocked countries with small economies for having, well, ambiguous relations with nearby Russia. It’s the places that have a choice, like Serbia, India, and Hungary, that are at risk of moving themselves onto our list of geopolitical rivals.

Re: Russian Assets Reportedly Seized at Baikonur Cosmodrome by Kazakh Authorities

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Post by baybal2 »

vbezhenar wrote: post #7
idontwantthis wrote: post #3

Is this real or not? Many articles all pointing to this domain which is currently down.

Sources are sketchy. Those sources I've found report that Kazakhstani bailiffs put an arrest to Russian property (basically they can't move it out of the country) and forbade some manager to leave country as well. I'm not sure if English meaning of word seizure includes those actions, I thought that seizure is more like expropriation and that's not what happening here. I think that's not serious. It's either some pol…

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Re: Russian Assets Reportedly Seized at Baikonur Cosmodrome by Kazakh Authorities

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Post by smcin »

selimthegrim wrote: post #17
fredoralive wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Russia has now built a launch site inside Russia (Vostochny Cosmodrome), in its far east. Although they don't seem to be actually using it that much at the moment, they wouldn't be cut off from space.

I think the trajectories from there are nowhere as good as Baikonur

Baikonur is 45.62° N, 63.31° E

Vostochny Cosmodrome, (Tsiolkovsky, Amur Oblast) is 51.85° N, 128.35° E. 550 miles west of Sakhalin Island and the Sea of Japan.

Re: Russian Assets Reportedly Seized at Baikonur Cosmodrome by Kazakh Authorities

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Post by The_Colonel »

joseftexas wrote: post #18
hadlock wrote: post #8

This apparently is a building/warehouse valued under $30 million that was under construction and never completed, never paid for. It is inside the boundary line of the cosmodrome which makes it notable, but this does not impact space operations for Russia directly. However it's not like they just seized a Soyuz rocket or crates of rocket engines, or even a train load of rocket fuel and they're holding it in lieu of p…

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Russia isn't currently in a position to invade another country.

In the medium-long term, *stans might want to balance the relations between Russia and China (and a bit with the West) which might make further Russian invasions unlikely.

Re: Russian Assets Reportedly Seized at Baikonur Cosmodrome by Kazakh Authorities

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Post by nslocum »

joseftexas wrote: post #18
hadlock wrote: post #8

This apparently is a building/warehouse valued under $30 million that was under construction and never completed, never paid for. It is inside the boundary line of the cosmodrome which makes it notable, but this does not impact space operations for Russia directly. However it's not like they just seized a Soyuz rocket or crates of rocket engines, or even a train load of rocket fuel and they're holding it in lieu of p…

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I think you're confused about the politics of the region. The US isn't a major factor in the decision making of central Asian countries. China however has taken a much more active role in central Asia which has changed the balance of power and enabled countries to disengage more from Russia.

Re: Russian Assets Reportedly Seized at Baikonur Cosmodrome by Kazakh Authorities

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Post by throwaway6734 »

joseftexas wrote: post #18
hadlock wrote: post #8

This apparently is a building/warehouse valued under $30 million that was under construction and never completed, never paid for. It is inside the boundary line of the cosmodrome which makes it notable, but this does not impact space operations for Russia directly. However it's not like they just seized a Soyuz rocket or crates of rocket engines, or even a train load of rocket fuel and they're holding it in lieu of p…

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In the similar vein as Ukraine? What's going on with their government?

Re: Russian Assets Reportedly Seized at Baikonur Cosmodrome by Kazakh Authorities

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Post by justsomehnguy »

vbezhenar wrote: post #7
idontwantthis wrote: post #3

Is this real or not? Many articles all pointing to this domain which is currently down.

Sources are sketchy. Those sources I've found report that Kazakhstani bailiffs put an arrest to Russian property (basically they can't move it out of the country) and forbade some manager to leave country as well. I'm not sure if English meaning of word seizure includes those actions, I thought that seizure is more like expropriation and that's not what happening here. I think that's not serious. It's either some pol…

The original "news" are from some Telegram channel from Mar 4.

Almost everywhere there is an absolutely identical text, without sources.

I couldn't find anything remotely similar in .kz

Re: Russian Assets Reportedly Seized at Baikonur Cosmodrome by Kazakh Authorities

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Post by smcl »

The_Colonel wrote: post #24
joseftexas wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Russia isn't currently in a position to invade another country. In the medium-long term, *stans might want to balance the relations between Russia and China (and a bit with the West) which might make further Russian invasions unlikely.

Yeah to me (admittedly a complete outsider) they seem to just barely have the capability to remain in the fight in Ukraine, it's almost unthinkable that they'd try to open another front.

I've also been wondering recently if Georgia might see this war as an opportune moment to retake South Ossetia and Abkhazia, or if Moldova might attempt to reestablish control of Transnistria. With Russia underresourced and distracted there may not ever be a better time to do so. Note that I understand this is complex and that none of those three regions are officially 100% controlled and occupied by Russia the way Crimea, Luhansk and Donetsk are, and that residents might not 100% desire to be "liberated" (I haven't spoken to anyone from those and don't follow opinion polling).

Re: Russian Assets Reportedly Seized at Baikonur Cosmodrome by Kazakh Authorities

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Post by dudeinjapan »

hadlock wrote: post #8

This apparently is a building/warehouse valued under $30 million that was under construction and never completed, never paid for. It is inside the boundary line of the cosmodrome which makes it notable, but this does not impact space operations for Russia directly. However it's not like they just seized a Soyuz rocket or crates of rocket engines, or even a train load of rocket fuel and they're holding it in lieu of p…

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Re: Russian Assets Reportedly Seized at Baikonur Cosmodrome by Kazakh Authorities

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Post by qsort »

qikInNdOutReply wrote: post #19

Thats what happens, when all you got to hold the band together is terror instead of soft power. Everyone just quits at the first sign of weakness.

I was thinking about the same thing a few days ago. One of the most interesting takeaways from this war is how soft power is very underrated, and lack of any soft power whatsoever is one of the reasons behind Russia's problems.
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