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Ivy League Schools Sure Look Like a Cartel

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If you think about it, large criminal structures need to become like governments, otherwise they are unstable, so it’s in their best interest to have rules and be fair within themselves. One interesting limit case is what happens if everyone is a member of such a criminal organization? There’s no practical difference between a government.

And if they grow large enough, they typically start providing welfare to the population, to pacify normal citizens. They even police their bad actors, see the cartel giving up their own in the recent murders of American tourists.

I don't have personal experience with it, maybe it's all fantasy, but a popular trope in mafia stories is the mafia serving as a parallel or backup government to otherwise law-abiding people. For instance, The Godfather opens with a man, not part of the mob, asking the Godfather for vigilante justice because the American criminal system failed to punish the man who disfigured his daughter.

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The author seems to have an axe to grind. > The need for diversity in education is as vital today as ever. But it’s not clear whether the Ivy Agreement’s ban on athletic scholarships actually promotes that end. One might even wonder whether, by not competing over sports stars, the schools are reducing the diversity of their student bodies. Yet later admits: > But recent research tells us that fielding a great team pr…

The flaw with this statement is that the Ivies absolutely do recruit athletes and allow coaches to prioritize students for acceptance, just like other D1 schools. The only difference is that instead of putting scholarship money in front of them, they dangle an Ivy League degree. If Ivies removed coaches from the admissions process, they would have more integrity.

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I like to joke that sometimes it is hard to tell the difference between the mafia and the government, they both demand you give them money in return for protection. Which is why the government goes after the mafia, they hate the competition.

Organized crime also routinely work to control government.

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The author seems to have an axe to grind. > The need for diversity in education is as vital today as ever. But it’s not clear whether the Ivy Agreement’s ban on athletic scholarships actually promotes that end. One might even wonder whether, by not competing over sports stars, the schools are reducing the diversity of their student bodies. Yet later admits: > But recent research tells us that fielding a great team pr…

The flaw with this statement is that the Ivies absolutely do recruit athletes and allow coaches to prioritize students for acceptance, just like other D1 schools. The only difference is that instead of putting scholarship money in front of them, they dangle an Ivy League degree. If Ivies removed coaches from the admissions process, they would have more integrity.

Honestly I’d prefer admission of an athlete who prioritizes an Ivy League degree over money to admission of one more silver-spoon legacy.

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Athletic scholarships is one of those very foreign concepts, for us outside the US. Seems like a uniquely (North) American thing?

That and the institution of the "college application essay". Does any other country have that?

I think it is common everywhere to require essays during the college evaluation process, but I don't understand well enough what is the US's "college application essay" to compare.
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