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Ivy League Schools Sure Look Like a Cartel

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Re: Ivy League Schools Sure Look Like a Cartel

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I like to joke that sometimes it is hard to tell the difference between the mafia and the government, they both demand you give them money in return for protection.

Which is why the government goes after the mafia, they hate the competition.

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I like to joke that sometimes it is hard to tell the difference between the mafia and the government, they both demand you give them money in return for protection. Which is why the government goes after the mafia, they hate the competition.

If you think about it, large criminal structures need to become like governments, otherwise they are unstable, so it’s in their best interest to have rules and be fair within themselves.

One interesting limit case is what happens if everyone is a member of such a criminal organization? There’s no practical difference between a government.

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I like to joke that sometimes it is hard to tell the difference between the mafia and the government, they both demand you give them money in return for protection. Which is why the government goes after the mafia, they hate the competition.

If you think about it, large criminal structures need to become like governments, otherwise they are unstable, so it’s in their best interest to have rules and be fair within themselves. One interesting limit case is what happens if everyone is a member of such a criminal organization? There’s no practical difference between a government.

And if they grow large enough, they typically start providing welfare to the population, to pacify normal citizens. They even police their bad actors, see the cartel giving up their own in the recent murders of American tourists.

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I like to joke that sometimes it is hard to tell the difference between the mafia and the government, they both demand you give them money in return for protection. Which is why the government goes after the mafia, they hate the competition.

The bottom-line tangles a weave of right-of-force and rule-of-law.

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I like to joke that sometimes it is hard to tell the difference between the mafia and the government, they both demand you give them money in return for protection. Which is why the government goes after the mafia, they hate the competition.

The difference is the legitimizing force of accountability to the people (at least, in principle.) It's a big difference. Pre-liberalism govts basically were mafias.

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I like to joke that sometimes it is hard to tell the difference between the mafia and the government, they both demand you give them money in return for protection. Which is why the government goes after the mafia, they hate the competition.

Omer Moav mentions in a recent Econtalk episode how you can say that the emergence of the state in human society can be considered the transition from road bandits to organized crime.

https://www.econtalk.org/omer-moav-on-the-emergence-of-the-s...

Re: Ivy League Schools Sure Look Like a Cartel

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I like to joke that sometimes it is hard to tell the difference between the mafia and the government, they both demand you give them money in return for protection. Which is why the government goes after the mafia, they hate the competition.

The Machinery of Freedom by David Friedman is an exploration along those lines.

http://daviddfriedman.com/The_Machinery_of_Freedom_.pdf

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