In general, if anyone wants to go through all the recent 8-K filings, this is what SEC EDGAR is for. Here's a link that'll bring up all recent 8-K filings by date and time, descending: https://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?action=getcurrent&d... In general, I would expect a ton of 8-Ks on Monday the 13th for companies to release information on their exposure to SIVB, particularly if their exposure is minor or non-…
First Republic Bank files 8-K – Tech only 4% of total deposits; no sector >9%
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Re: First Republic Bank files 8-K – Tech only 4% of total deposits; no sector >9%
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why are banks even allowed to buy assets? Every asset is a risk. Banks should have right to do exactly two things. Keep their customers saving and issue loans. There's plenty of risks even in that activity. Every other thing bank does is just piling up risk to unreasonable levels.
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Re: First Republic Bank files 8-K – Tech only 4% of total deposits; no sector >9%
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why are banks even allowed to buy assets? Every asset is a risk. Banks should have right to do exactly two things. Keep their customers saving and issue loans. There's plenty of risks even in that activity. Every other thing bank does is just piling up risk to unreasonable levels.
I think this was a weird thing where deposit demand was so much greater than loan demand. They had too much money and thought they were doing a safe thing. But failed to consider the time aspect and how rapid interest rate increases nuke them. Banks do provide a valuable service and having them reject deposits isn’t a solution.
Re: First Republic Bank files 8-K – Tech only 4% of total deposits; no sector >9%
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Matt Levine reports that the reason they had to buy those low-yield investments that plummeted is because it’s tech-sector customers had too much money in the boom times. Too much deposits means they need to buy a lot of something , and in the boom times that was low-yield stuff.
Sort of the other way to handle it would be to say “we can’t find risk-free yield for the volume of cash we just had deposited, so deposits now get 0.8% instead of 1.0%” Which is kinda fine? Means you might lose some business as others chase yield. But I feel like most startups don’t actually have that much cash in the bank so they shouldn’t really be chasing yield anyway. It didn’t take a genius to predict interest…
Re: First Republic Bank files 8-K – Tech only 4% of total deposits; no sector >9%
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Matt Levine reports that the reason they had to buy those low-yield investments that plummeted is because it’s tech-sector customers had too much money in the boom times. Too much deposits means they need to buy a lot of something , and in the boom times that was low-yield stuff.
I'd also like to point out that VCs were telling all their portfolio companies "Pack it in and conserve cash as you're not getting another round." That caused a lot of companies that would otherwise have put their cash into an investment vehicle to instead hold it in their accounts. It will also be interesting to see if someone is going to wind up in jail for initiating the bank run. Someone shared confidential info…
I think insiders might not even have realized how bad their balance sheet looked. On the earnings call the CEO was talking about how much he likes cycling to de stress, etc
Re: First Republic Bank files 8-K – Tech only 4% of total deposits; no sector >9%
#46In general, if anyone wants to go through all the recent 8-K filings, this is what SEC EDGAR is for. Here's a link that'll bring up all recent 8-K filings by date and time, descending: https://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?action=getcurrent&d... In general, I would expect a ton of 8-Ks on Monday the 13th for companies to release information on their exposure to SIVB, particularly if their exposure is minor or non-…
Your last line is key... The silent ones are who you should be concerned about, most likely.
Re: First Republic Bank files 8-K – Tech only 4% of total deposits; no sector >9%
#47In general, if anyone wants to go through all the recent 8-K filings, this is what SEC EDGAR is for. Here's a link that'll bring up all recent 8-K filings by date and time, descending: https://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?action=getcurrent&d... In general, I would expect a ton of 8-Ks on Monday the 13th for companies to release information on their exposure to SIVB, particularly if their exposure is minor or non-…
Your last line is key... The silent ones are who you should be concerned about, most likely.
Re: First Republic Bank files 8-K – Tech only 4% of total deposits; no sector >9%
#48Re: First Republic Bank files 8-K – Tech only 4% of total deposits; no sector >9%
#49The fact that they filed a last minute report on a Friday night speaks volumes about the amount of withdrawals they must be experiencing. This is about as strong as a signal they could put out to stop a possible run.
Another interpretation is that this is generally how the FDIC likes to do things: take over on Friday and reopen on Monday. Not sure that will happen in this case but the regulators get two days to prepare to reopen, which at least in recorded US history is seamless and without risk for retail depositors.
Re: First Republic Bank files 8-K – Tech only 4% of total deposits; no sector >9%
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Matt Levine reports that the reason they had to buy those low-yield investments that plummeted is because it’s tech-sector customers had too much money in the boom times. Too much deposits means they need to buy a lot of something , and in the boom times that was low-yield stuff.
Sort of the other way to handle it would be to say “we can’t find risk-free yield for the volume of cash we just had deposited, so deposits now get 0.8% instead of 1.0%” Which is kinda fine? Means you might lose some business as others chase yield. But I feel like most startups don’t actually have that much cash in the bank so they shouldn’t really be chasing yield anyway. It didn’t take a genius to predict interest…
Unless you are borrowing, then the opposite.
Depositors weren’t getting anything. I’m guessing SVB wanted yield for shareholders.