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Giving the finger is a ‘God-given right’, Canadian judge rules

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Post by version_five »

SonicScrub wrote: post #141
version_five wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lol (Just to be clear, is case anyone doesn't know about this, the above is either an absolutely insane or absurdly dishonest characterization, it's easy to do your own research)

I did my own research on the subject when I attempted to skate down the canal (a usually enjoyable winter activity) during that time period. The above characterization is mostly correct. However they forgot to mention the racial slurs. They also forgot to mention the constant harassment of medical staff at city hospitals just trying to get to and from work.

A bit ironic to get upset because your canal skate was disturbed by people peacefully protesting a government that was forcing everybody in the country to comply with all sorts of absurd measures.

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Post by gerdesj »

I have no idea what a UK version of this transcript would look like but I rather enjoyed this one from Canada.

The Décision is spelt out with exquisite precision throughout the entire document. King Charles III's Justice is quite clearly very well dispensed in Canada.

Re: Giving the finger is a ‘God-given right’, Canadian judge rules

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Post by version_five »

jpambrun wrote: post #149
version_five wrote: post #65

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Canada's charter of rights and freedoms isn't worth the paper it's printed on, especially in Quebec where the government actively pre-empts it (it has a clause that allows this, explaining why it's worthless) when it doesn't line up with their ideology.

This charter and the constitution was imposed unilaterally, and adopted at night without the presence of Quebec representatives. So.. can't really blame us for not being in love with it..

Can't blame Quebec for disagreeing that people are entitled to basic freedoms?

(I'd encourage people to read the charter and Quebec's concerns, Quebec objects to it because it doesn't allow them to discriminate against foreigners, there's not some legitimate concern)

Some background https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/05/28/quebec-ca...

Re: Giving the finger is a ‘God-given right’, Canadian judge rules

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Post by 908B64B197 »

Waterluvian wrote: post #143
908B64B197 wrote: post #139

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> I find my American friends sometimes freak out over the “but they could take your freedoms away!” when they read about stuff like that But did they? > It’s also written somewhere that I’m subject to a king, so I’m not really free anyways. Also I don’t actually own any land. It all belongs to my king. That’s written down too. Is it something that people are proud of? A big part of the culture?

Nobody here really cares about the monarchy beyond the novelty. But we don’t feel threatened by the fact that technically the monarchy has sweeping powers to dissolve government and walk away with our freedoms. Heck we aren’t even accumulating weapons just in case!

> But we don’t feel threatened by the fact that technically the monarchy has sweeping powers to dissolve government and walk away with our freedoms.

> Heck we aren’t even accumulating weapons just in case!

Not like you could do anything about it, seeing as the monarch took the guns!

Re: Giving the finger is a ‘God-given right’, Canadian judge rules

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Post by brailsafe »

version_five wrote: post #65
tjohns wrote: post #58

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The first amendment to the US constitution does not apply to Canada. Unless you believe US law is globally binding. (That said, Canada does have their own freedom of speech, under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.)

Canada's charter of rights and freedoms isn't worth the paper it's printed on, especially in Quebec where the government actively pre-empts it (it has a clause that allows this, explaining why it's worthless) when it doesn't line up with their ideology.

True, but we also have the UN charter, which is also worth fuck all

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Post by rhaway84773 »

tonyarkles wrote: post #147
barbazoo wrote: post #56

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> I'm just surprised he was actually arrested for something that's obviously covered by the first amendment FYI, This is in Canada

To be fair, despite being Canada, the judge agrees with you. At the start: > [5] To the complainants, the presence of young families outside it is a source of scorn and vivid resentment that ultimately spilled over into a criminal complaint against their neighbour. A school teacher. A caring father of two young daughters who committed no crime whatsoever. A man who has somehow been subjected to criminal charges for a…

What a great judge.

They have crystallized all the issues with this bullshit in a really straightforward, yet persuasive and hilarious way.

Re: Giving the finger is a ‘God-given right’, Canadian judge rules

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Post by rhaway84773 »

jpambrun wrote: post #149
version_five wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Canada's charter of rights and freedoms isn't worth the paper it's printed on, especially in Quebec where the government actively pre-empts it (it has a clause that allows this, explaining why it's worthless) when it doesn't line up with their ideology.

This charter and the constitution was imposed unilaterally, and adopted at night without the presence of Quebec representatives. So.. can't really blame us for not being in love with it..

An alternative way of stating this is that the Quebec government was unilaterally required to give its citizens rights.

The people of Quebec may be unhappy with the mechanism but surely the principle of protecting people from government overreach should not be in dispute.

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