If you listened to the entire interview, I don’t know how you managed to mentally substitute the term “Russia” for the term “Marxism-Leninism” for 15 entire minutes. The man is talking about
ideological subversion. It’s not about nationalism. It’s about the propagation of leftist ideology.
McCarthyism was in the 1950’s and by the 80’s had already been “discredited” as some sort of witch hunt.
Bezmenov already says in 1985 that the ideological program had succeeded beyond all expectations and that Americans were doing most of the work for them. That, coupled with the collapse of the USSR, would allow that leftist ideology to mutate into the forms we see today.
I’m not entirely convinced Yuri is telling the truth here, but I thought it would be useful to clarify and perhaps steelman what he is saying, and what that would imply to us in 2023.