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I splurged for the fanciest dishwasher and it was worth it

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Re: I splurged for the fanciest dishwasher and it was worth it

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The repair comment is interesting. It seems in the US if you have a warranty claim for an appliance they contract with some generic repairman who has to order parts.

labor unions are stronger and more prevalent in the EU than in the US

For Miele it’s mostly a factor of a strong (and pricey) brand, and one which they have maintained where others basically sold out for short term revenue.

Re: I splurged for the fanciest dishwasher and it was worth it

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post #23

Dishwashers are absolutely an appliance to splurge on. The difference between bottom-tier, adequate-tier and high-end is basically a few hundred bucks. Bottom-tier are loud, don't actually clean dishes well, are ugly, and fail early. Top-tier are near-silent, clean dishes without a pre-rinse, have all sorts of intelligent drawers & racks to fit all your needs, and look great. Some of them even have fancy features lik…

Here in the US, luxury appliances are what sell houses. Usually the investment pays handsomly when you go to sell.

no, LOCATION sells homes

appliances are a commodity that represent a minor fraction of the sale price

no one plonks down $2 million dollars on a home to get $30k worth of appliances

no one moves into a poor school district to buy a Viking range

you can swap out all the appliances in a home in a few days

and the idea that these are an "investment"?? how many homes have you owned? no one is making a profit off of installing a dishwasher

and to edit a response...you just flipped properties in a seller's market, you would have made a profit regardless. wait until it is truly a buyer's market...you won't get a premium off easily-done renovations like swapping appliances

Re: I splurged for the fanciest dishwasher and it was worth it

#53
post #33

>It’s pronounced “Mee-la,” which rhymes with “Sheila.” Now you know. Not quite...closer to Mee-le. There is no prominent A at the end. Never heard anyone German pronounce it that way. See also Miele Germany youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGTCxBwHHMI

ze americans keep pronouncing porsha as well, and being really smug about it

Re: I splurged for the fanciest dishwasher and it was worth it

#54
post #33

>It’s pronounced “Mee-la,” which rhymes with “Sheila.” Now you know. Not quite...closer to Mee-le. There is no prominent A at the end. Never heard anyone German pronounce it that way. See also Miele Germany youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGTCxBwHHMI

Yes, I thought it was funny that the author wants to demonstrate their sophistication by telling their readers how it's pronounced properly, and gets it wrong, thus revealing themselves to be ignorant.

Re: I splurged for the fanciest dishwasher and it was worth it

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post #53
post #33

>It’s pronounced “Mee-la,” which rhymes with “Sheila.” Now you know. Not quite...closer to Mee-le. There is no prominent A at the end. Never heard anyone German pronounce it that way. See also Miele Germany youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGTCxBwHHMI

ze americans keep pronouncing porsha as well, and being really smug about it

Although "porsha" is still better than "porch"

Re: I splurged for the fanciest dishwasher and it was worth it

#56

I had a rental with a really nice Bosch dishwasher and it was truly impressive. Absolutely silent (literally almost couldn't tell it was working) and very well made. Made me a Bosch appliance convert for life.

A year or so ago I bought a Bosch 800 series to replace the bargain basement model my house came with and it's been great so far. The Bosch's noise level isn't a problem at all despite being practically in the living room (open floor plan kitchen + living room), and the build quality difference between the two was just staggering… The original cheapo was so light I could carry it around on my own all day long, while the Bosch was so much heavier that moving it was a two-person affair.

Re: I splurged for the fanciest dishwasher and it was worth it

#57
post #8

One thing to note about Miele's (but not unique about them): It's not trivial to repair them yourself. You need a specialized inductive cable to read error codes and if you don't want to lose warranty, only a certified repair technician is allowed to fix it. Also, the brand itself is getting more 'blurry'. Miele refrigerators are actually made by Liebherr.

I think it depends on the failure. I’ve repaired a Miele washing machine recently, and found the insides of it wonderfully overbuilt and modular, with every bit of metal bent over to remove sharp corners.

It was a real pleasure to work inside of. Far better than the AEG I repaired just before, that was all tightly integrated parts, and sharp edges just waiting to slice you up.

Re: I splurged for the fanciest dishwasher and it was worth it

#58
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Here in the US, luxury appliances are what sell houses. Usually the investment pays handsomly when you go to sell. You don't take your appliances with you when you move?

Absolutely not. They're built into the house. Cabinets are literally constructed around them to fit seamlessly. I know it's common in certain other countries to take your appliances with you, even for rentals. It makes moving so much harder, I've never understood it. To me, a home not coming with a refrigerator or washing machine makes as much sense as it not coming with a toilet or shower.

those cabinets are all built to standard dimensions though

your "builtin" fridge isn't really builtin, it just has cabinetry (plywood + veneer) on both side and the top in a standard dimension...its not like the home was built around the fridge

in most homes even the "builtin" cabinetry work is cheap garbage that can be replaced trivially, particularly in the case of white-finish just in most homes now

Re: I splurged for the fanciest dishwasher and it was worth it

#59

I know at least for Bosch dishwashers, all tiers have the same pump and washing mechanics - you will get pretty similar cleaning performance from any of them. The more expensive models come with more gimmick cycle modes or fancier racks, but fundamentally the same guts that make it “tick”. I know Miele does similarly with their vacuums - they all have the same great suction motor, and come with different accessories…

I've been to the Bosch d/w factory in North Carolina, they also own the Thermador brand and build the appliances side by side on the line. Thermador appliances get slightly thicker metal and hinges, but the same internals.
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